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Leavers, I'm a leaver... are you out there

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BurpsandHustles · 26/03/2019 20:43

I know this thread will get trolled and spammed with the usual suspects demanding answers from us.

But I'm hoping any leavers out there could ignore them and tell me how their feeling.

Right now I'm wondering who the hell is speaking out for us? It's gone very quiet....

There is some momentum from pro Europe voices... but aside from a damp squib march from farage..does anyone else think it's gone eerily quiet!!

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UnrelentingFruitScoffer · 27/03/2019 13:36

Leavers are just idiots. They don't know anything about the issues and they think that leaving the EU will make things better. It won't.

Big, showy changes can be changes for the worse.

nagynolonger · 27/03/2019 13:37

I made my mind up long before the referendum was announced that I would vote leave if I ever got the chance to vote.

It was never anything to do with what was on the bloody bus......I presume the question about costing us money was aimed at me?

It is about worries over a federal Europe etc. And the fact that I would like my grandchildren to have a vote that counts for something. Like I say MEPs are just too distant.

Helmetbymidnight · 27/03/2019 13:41

I'm not talking about the bus.

You talked about "saving millions". I'm wondering if you realised that we as a nation are becoming and will become much poorer because of Brexit?

Do you understand that - and you're happy with it, presumably.

Random18 · 27/03/2019 13:43

@unrelenting - that is unfair.

And name calling does not help on either side.

1tisILeClerc · 27/03/2019 13:48

I was looking forward to the UK leaving this weekend so I can quit MN and enjoy life. Seems like at least another 2 weeks to go now.

YouBumder · 27/03/2019 13:48

We stay in,but those that wanted to stay in pay higher taxes that benefit those areas and people that are affected by being in the EU.

Why not? I’m quite happy to keep paying my 0.69% a year of my tax to the EU. Heck, I’ll even double it!

Or how about we leave on no deal and the leavers can get to the end of the queue for the food and life saving medicine that will be restricted, after us remainers are alright?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 27/03/2019 13:51

I am a leaver but am fed up with the nastiness and sarcasm on here. I have reported a few posts and they have been removed.

What in this thread...or generally?

jaynelovesagathachristie · 27/03/2019 13:52

Not a leaver but my dad is and still is, we had a big debate and nothing agreed on, he thinks The whole system needs to come crashing down. He argued how the EU are showing their true colors and trade deals will be ok with other countries. I added that countries such as India china etc will likely give good trade deals in return for visas visas and more visas.

Ciwirocks · 27/03/2019 14:16

Still no word on Northern Ireland. Are leavers just not thinking about it?

1tisILeClerc · 27/03/2019 14:18

The UK started 'trade' negotiations with India but when they said that 100,000 visas needed to be on the table first, the UK walked away, for now.
Something is about to come crashing down but it's not the EU. No guarantee for 10, 20 years time but things will have to get seriously bad globally before it does. The problem the UK is having is that the EU leaders talk to each other and although they may have differences they are prepared to compromise.

bellinisurge · 27/03/2019 14:18

@Ciwirocks I must not think bad thoughts I must not think bad thoughts I must not think bad thoughts I must not think bad thoughts I must not think bad thoughts I must not think bad thoughts

You mean that kind of analysis about NI.

nrpmum · 27/03/2019 14:32

The funny thing is we are all fighting because of our opposing views when what should have been happening is a good sit down to thrash out the deal we want to leave with when DC handed TM the baton. It is not really the fault of any of the voters, it is the fault of the government who, as usual, couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. Now we are stuck with their incompetence and short sightedness.

Helmetbymidnight · 27/03/2019 15:00

Its not entirely the fault of the Govt.

Brexiteers said there was an easy deal to have.

What they failed to mention was Brexit would fuck the economy, screw the GFA (and screw millions of lives but that's irrelevant really).

There is not an easy way to Brexit without doing those things. I think this Govt is a complete disaster but that's not their fault. We can't Brexit without fucking ourselves. How badly are we going to fuck ourselves....who knows.

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BurpsandHustles · 27/03/2019 17:23

Two year's of trying to derail Brexit and the government, enough in fighting in labour to cause. Group to actually split off.

And now day's before supposed departure they start to thrash out options.

They should have been forced into cross party coalition on emergency footing the second the vote went leave

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 27/03/2019 17:32

They should have been forced into cross party coalition on emergency footing the second the vote went leave

Abso-fucking-lutely

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · 27/03/2019 17:42

Leavers in London/Home counties - if you are interested, the (Farage, unfortunately) Brexit march seems to be reaching parliament square at 1.30 pm ish on Friday if you want to join to show solidarity with those who think we should leave (preferably now). There is another gathering/rally on Saturday (30 march) at 3.00 pm in Parliament Square which it is hoped will be much bigger to show that we do still want to leave and aren't happy. Leaving with No Deal is my choice - we actually do have arrangements in place (despite the BBC never reporting them and cutting off MPs trying to explain them). I am fed up with the hysteria from the remain side about No Deal. There is nothing wrong with WTO rules. Some UK businesses already trade under these rules and have no problems with the tariffs. There is life outside the EU (I lived it before we joined and I've lived it in non-EU countries too) - we won't die. though, if we ever do manage to get out, I fully expect 10 to even 30 years of economical hardship while we get on our feet. At the end of that, I would expect us to be a strong country and possibly in a much better position than the rest of the EU. I voted for this not because I don't care about the future of people's children but precisely because I really care about the future of the UK and, by implication, the future of those who are now children (and their children). I never expected instant riches and sunlit fields. If we don't get Brexit, I will not bother voting for anyone ever again (though will probably go along to the polling station and spoil my vote to show that this was a deliberate choice and not laziness). There would be no point as democracy in the UK will have been rendered meaningless.

TalkinPaece · 27/03/2019 17:46

raffia
There is nothing wrong with WTO rules
How do the WTO rules work for services?

I fully expect 10 to even 30 years of economical hardship while we get on our feet
Excellent. That makes it all worth it.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 27/03/2019 17:47

The only significant thing incorrect about that government leaflet is that it's wording suggested the significant fall in the value of the Pound would be instant, whereas it took the most serious dive when A50 was triggered some months later.

It did fall significantly the day the result came in didn’t it? I had a trip to Spain booked a fortnight after the referendum. I stupidly decided not to buy my euros on the day of the referendum and ended up getting fewer than I would have otherwise.

Figmentofmyimagination · 27/03/2019 17:48

we won’t die is quite a low bar.

My children will be 50 in 30 years.

This is genuinely insane stuff.

Helmetbymidnight · 27/03/2019 17:49

Those would be brilliant to put on your placard, mysjoyful:

'WE WON'T DIE' (except if we rely on cancer drugs and insulin and all the main medical bodies in the UK think Brexit will be a disaster.)

'I fully expect 10 to even 30 years of economical hardship'.

You must! Please.

Figmentofmyimagination · 27/03/2019 17:51

Honestly, we would all be better off if anyone who is unphased by self-inflicted economic hardship for the next 30 years took it upon themselves to stay well away from any polling station.

Helmetbymidnight · 27/03/2019 17:53

Op, I do hope you join the marches and use some of mrsjoyful excellent quotes.

I fully expect 10 to even 30 years of economical hardship

I do think this could be the great rallying cry of the Brexit movement.

havingtochangeusernameagain · 27/03/2019 17:55

I fully expect 10 to even 30 years of economical hardship while we get on our feet

Nice.. so my son can forget having a job then. He'll be in his mid 40s by the end of your 30 years!

Call me short termist, but I live NOW. I want to have a life now. Enjoy life in fact. I've only got one of them, and I'm not giving it up for unicorns.

Helmetbymidnight · 27/03/2019 17:58

Honestly, we would all be better off if anyone who is unphased by self-inflicted economic hardship for the next 30 years took it upon themselves to stay well away from any polling station.

Grin Grin

I think leavers should have that as their slogans too.

'If we don't Brexit, I'll never vote again.'

Do it, Mrs Joyful!

This is my favourite though: 'I fully expect 10 to even 30 years of economical hardship'

Helmetbymidnight · 27/03/2019 18:00

possibly in a much better position than the rest of the EU.

How funny.

And she says she cares about our children.

Awwwwwwwww