Westminstenders: Indicative Crossiants

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Tomorrow the Indicative debate starts at 3pm

The Speaker will choose options to go to vote.

Vote at 7pm for yes or no for each option.

7.30pm The SI debate on extension followed by vote.

Announcement of the indicative vote sometime between 8.15pm and 9.30pm

Meanwhile the DUP have indicated they would prefer a long delay (and presumably EU elections by default) rather than May's deal, in a strange twist of Brexit.

Bercows- hope your LO feels better soon too

Why does the Speaker get to choose?
Will Revoke even be an option.
We’d better get a referendum then.
I am so pissed off with this shit show

Quite tired so a bit hard of thinking, but to me the Labour proposal looks like the cakiest of cake. Why Leave for this (if the EU would ever OK it)?

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Sorry for all the poorly little ones :(

Hope your nights aren't too disturbed

I was surprised they sent that. So final. Depressing

The only way is to keep sharing the petition. I've always thought they'd only take it into account if it hit 8 digits.

I heard an interview with Letwin today and he explained that voting on the options would be on paper with "yes" or "no" to explore all options. So why are we going back to the usual voting on amendments chosen by Bercow?

Ok so I think what may happen is voting "informally" and then the amendments. Quite how the two will fit in together I don't know. I've also seen this on Twitter and read Letwin is going for option 3. They also hope to set time aside on Monday.

Forgot the attachment

Thank you runningintothesunset I got Call Another People’s Vote.

P M flippin K!

Robert Peston saying he thinks a second referendum will make it through to the final round.

He also says the PM can't ignore Parliament. Citing ministerial code.

It isn't stated which law May would be violating and what the penalty would be IF she chose to ignore the indicative vote result.

John Rentoul has a spreadsheet. It's his guess at how MPs will vote in indicative votes. Its largely guess work and given its a free vote may be less predictable

Pmk

I'm beginning to build up an alternative vocabulary based on modern use:

"Literal" (imaginary)

"Clear" (as mud)

"Strong and Stable" (well we all know how that turned out!)

Richard Bullick @ richardbullick1
Have none of the ERG switchers realised that if the backstop was agreed to by Parliament the best interests of unionism would be served by a much softer Brexit than they support?

Sam McBride @SamJAMcbride
The implication of this - from the man who for more than a decade was the strategic brain of the DUP's backroom team & whose thinking is still respected within the party - is pretty explicit.

The petition has passed 5.8 million. A third of the way to 17.4.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

Just in case there is anybody out there who hasn't seen it or signed it yet.

I've just stumbled across an incredibly entertaining thread which I'm slightly convinced must be a wind-up by the OP:

They say they're a Leaver and call upon other Leavers to bemoan their oppression and silencing by the big bullying Remain world, and goes on to complain about a lack of Leaver marches, witty poster campaigns and so on... whilst also saying that they wouldn't consider marching or campaigning. It's attracted a fairly healthy harvest of righteous sloganeering and supine victimhood in which blame is liberally showered upon everybody else.

Then again, it probably isn't a wind-up, since this unholy alliance of entitled grandiosity, universal persecution and supine passivity seems pretty much normal amongst many Leavers.

Thanks to all the knowledgeable posters on these threads.

Just jumping on to say that if anyone is feeling as depressed as me about Brexit, there is currently a quite amusing take on things called "Road to Brexit" on BBC 2.

That follows this from earlier today

Laura Hughes @ laurakhughes
DUP's Sammy Wilson writes in @Telegraph:

"Even if we are forced into a one-year extension, we at least would have a say on the things which affect us during that time".

Then there was this later update

Laura Hughes @laurakhughes
NEW:
Understand Sammy Wilson is not speaking on behalf of the whole DUP.

The party IS NOT advocating a long extension to Article 50.

Position remains unchanged.

Dom Walsh @ domwalsh13
Hmm...

One of the confusing things about deciphering the DUP's exact position is that Sammy Wilson is arguably their most hardline MP on Brexit - much more so than Dodds, Foster.

But at the same time, he's literally their Brexit spokesman!

A couple of days ago there was also talk that the DUP were about to back May's deal until she opened her mouth and pissed them off.

My point being there seems to be movement in the DUP's position and a hell of a lot of dispute currently going on within the party itself.

Cracks seem to be showing and there's signs the DUP want to climbdown but need to be given almost a graceful way to do it...

I’m finding the whole Brexit debacle extremely stressful at the moment. I don’t want to leave at all, and my personal red line is that anything which curtails FoM is unacceptable. Which isn’t a terribly comfortable position right now.

I got the Govt email reply too.
Offensive, frankly!

PMK