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Westminstenders: Indicative Crossiants

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RedToothBrush · 26/03/2019 18:23

Tomorrow the Indicative debate starts at 3pm

The Speaker will choose options to go to vote.

Vote at 7pm for yes or no for each option.

7.30pm The SI debate on extension followed by vote.

Announcement of the indicative vote sometime between 8.15pm and 9.30pm

Meanwhile the DUP have indicated they would prefer a long delay (and presumably EU elections by default) rather than May's deal, in a strange twist of Brexit.

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Random18 · 27/03/2019 15:50

Now with WA and PV what would the questions be?

My concern is that they would somehow not put Remain on the ballot paper.

Would they have too?

keepforgettingmyusername · 27/03/2019 15:50

@Sostenueto PM will have to ask EU for a longer extension with a clear plan of what will be achieved during this time. Most likely 2nd ref depending on the support it has (we'll see that this evening)
Think TM will resign if that becomes the case.

prettybird · 27/03/2019 15:51

I wish Joanna Cherry wasn't the first name on Motion L (Revoke if nothing agreed by the day before we are due to leave) Sad

No matter its merits, there are many MPs who will vote against it purely on the principle that it was the SNP that put it forward Confused - even if that means destroying the UK's economyAngry

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RedToothBrush · 27/03/2019 15:55

Esther Webber @estwebber
One clerk just texted me, unsolicited: "Why even have procedure anymore, apparently we're making it up as we go along"

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Motheroffourdragons · 27/03/2019 16:00

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MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 16:00

Leadsome claims the govt was "elected by the people..."

Oh dear. Not even if it had a majority.

GCSE British Constitution Grade F

RevokeRemainRebuild · 27/03/2019 16:01

Keir Starmer says Labour are whipping for K, J and M

RevokeRemainRebuild · 27/03/2019 16:03

And recommending Labour MPs vote for amendment D

Holidayshopping · 27/03/2019 16:04

Are labour whipping against the second referendum?

DGRossetti · 27/03/2019 16:05

Who remembers Blackadder the Thirds and Baldricks vote ....?

prettybird · 27/03/2019 16:06

If I were an MP and voting, it would be as follows (given that I understand that they are simple Yes/No responses and you can have as many "Yes" as you want)

B - No Deal No
D - Common Market 2.0 Yes
H - Norway - without customs union Yes (I think)
J - Leave EU with UK-wide customs union Yes (I think - but am confused as to what this one means Confused but if it is Ken Clarke, it must be one of the better one Wink)
K - Labour’s permanent customs union Yes (I think)
L - Revoke A50 if no deal Brexit not approved day b4 due to leave Yes
M - 2nd ref Yes
O - Seek standstill agreement with EU No

The "I think" responses are because although they are not my preference, they would be better than a No Deal crash out.

phpolly · 27/03/2019 16:06

SNP seems to be the voice of reason more often than not these days. But I wonder why they didn't consider putting someone else's name first on Motion L just to make it more palatable for MPs.

CordeliaEarhart · 27/03/2019 16:08

So which options, of those selected for a vote, would people be happy with now?

Any except unicorns and No Deal. However, I'm not totally clear on which of the available options are unicorns, but then again neither are MPs! My preferred option is M or if that fails L.

But I absolutely want B completely obliterated. As the government aren't whipping I'm hoping it will be.

Holidayshopping · 27/03/2019 16:09

What’s the betting there won’t actually be a majority for anything!?

TalkinPaece · 27/03/2019 16:11

FWIW I know somebody who was at school with JRMs wife - she's even odder than he is, and utterly loaded
so he will never, ever suffer financial hardship no matter how bad he makes it for the rest of us.

prettybird · 27/03/2019 16:12

Oh - I finally did that Buzzfeed Quiz. I got unsurprisingly Revoke Grin

MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 16:12

No Deal will be crushed.

Revoke is not permanent. UK can start all over again with A50 "In Good Faith" under a different PM and/or Govt.

downcasteyes · 27/03/2019 16:15

Interestingly, the amendments that Labour are whipping on are the ones that are likely to do best - J (customs union), K (customs union + single market), M (Kyle-Wilson). D (Boles/common market), which Labour are 'encouraging' but not whipping also.

No deal, EFTA/EEA, revoke and Malthouse are not likely to do well at all.

So basically, the votes will probably turn out an outcome that looks very much like Labour's policy for about the last 2 years. Customs Union is going to be very strong, but there will be a glimmer of a get-out for Remainers in Kyle-Wilson.

DGRossetti · 27/03/2019 16:19

Shifting sideways a bit, has anyone else heard any anti-EU frothing over the introduction of compulsory speed limiters for cars ? In particular the bit where it's set to stay Brexit or not ?

NoWordForFluffy · 27/03/2019 16:21

As well as not changing the clocks which will also stay.

BackInTime · 27/03/2019 16:22

Yes lots of ranting about speed limiters and EU interference among leave work colleagues today.

Littlespaces · 27/03/2019 16:22

Apparently it will save lots of lives each year.

The80sweregreat · 27/03/2019 16:24

Speeding needs to be sorted out.
It's a good idea I think!

SusanWalker · 27/03/2019 16:24

So if MV111 is now less likely will this make the votes even more important?

RevokeRemainRebuild · 27/03/2019 16:25

By heck, Stephen Barclay is easy on the eye but could bore the paint off the walls.