Westminstenders: Indicative Crossiants

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Tomorrow the Indicative debate starts at 3pm

The Speaker will choose options to go to vote.

Vote at 7pm for yes or no for each option.

7.30pm The SI debate on extension followed by vote.

Announcement of the indicative vote sometime between 8.15pm and 9.30pm

Meanwhile the DUP have indicated they would prefer a long delay (and presumably EU elections by default) rather than May's deal, in a strange twist of Brexit.

JRM has a degree in History so no legal background per se

PMK

I've just been reading JRM's wiki page...I knew he was a silver spoon but hadn't realised quite to what degree.

Not exactly a man of the people is he

http://www.natcen.ac.uk/news-media/press-releases/2019/march/british-public-unhappy-about-brexit-negotiations,-with-leavers-and-remainers-equally-critical/

New data from the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) reveals significant shifts in attitudes to the government’s handling of the Brexit negotiation process.

Only 7% of Brits think that the UK government has been handling the negotiations well.
80% of Leave voters and 85% of Remain voters believe the government is handling Britain’s exit badly.

Andrea Leadsome always usually has a face like a skelped arse.

Alternatively, she's just a soor puss.

Both are probably true

JRM is given so much attention because of his plummy voice and quirky posh persona. He'd be an total unknown otherwise. People still lap that crap up sadly.

Ok I'm vaguely caught up.

Bad day in Mr Hazard land and I wanna cry. Tusk made me wanna cry a different sort of cry. I want to email Tusk's office to say ta but I could only find the general EU ask us a question contact details.

And am I the only one who is violently allergic to catch phrases now? The lead don't leave thing. Just.. I just .. can't articulate why the hives to it. But hives there are.

it's nearly 3pm after all.

She does prettybird So glad her "no children" jibe at TM cost her a shot at the top job, for which she is plainly unsuited.

One thing the MSM are to blame for is the rise of JRM. They are fucking obsessed with him and his opinions. He's just a particularly odious and odd backbencher, he is nothing special, why they heck they treat him as some sort of political giant is beyond me.

hazard

God, Rees-Mogg has been silver-spoon-fed into everything he's ever done. Eton, history degree at Oxford (2:1), pissing about with money, shares and hedge funds, and Tory politics.

If JRM does vote for the PM's deal after saying he wouldn't etc etc would his job be on the line in a GE? He must be in a safe seat ( cba to look it all up!)
So much voting going on today ; it's a bit confusing.

Rees-Smug has a history degree. He knows how to use history as propaganda to twist it for current political ambition

Ian Dunt @ IanDunt
Mogg says the "assertion of parliamentary authority" in the Civil War ended with Pride's Purge. Fuck me has he got that one arse-over-face.

Pride's urge was indeed a very shameful moment in English history. Colonel Pride stood outside parliament and arrested certain Presbyterian MPs as they tried to enter. It resulted in the Rump Parliament, which was Cromwell's fig-leaf of democratic legitimacy.

But that was not the result of asserting parliamentary authority. It was MPs asserting parliamentary authority during the war which meant they could stand up to the king and kill absolute monarchy.

It was the result of something else entirely: Cromwell's use of the phrase 'the will of the people' to pretend that he possessed democratic legitimacy he had not earned, nor ever bothered to prove.

That phrase is always the favoured notion of despots, because it allows them to pretend they reflect the people's wishes without having to be restricted by democratic institutions which process and reveal them.

If anyone has the right to bring up Pride's Purge, it is not the people who have supported the use of an imaginary will of the people to sidestep parliament. Quite the fucking opposite.

Lucy Worsley's British History's Biggest Fibs and American History's Biggest Fibs are still on iplayer I think and are a masterclass at the crap Mogg is trying to pull atm.

Can you imagine your whole life going to school, university and then working with the same people?

shudders

Apparently at Eton he was noted as being a particularly dogmatic Thatcherite.

As a child

His lived experience is so niche how can he possibly understand how life is for the 'average' person, let alone the vulnerable?

Division on the Indictive vote procedure.

Tried to get some work done. Failed.

How long will this vote take? I need to do the school run!!

With his change of voting tack Mogg may find himself on the angry end of his hitherto fervent fans. Such a shame...

www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/rees-mogg-fandom-meltdown?bftwuk&utm_term=4ldqpgm#4ldqpgm

hazard 💐

Pretty shit day at casa chevvy too but just general crap, not health crap.

So sorry things are good with mrhazard

I am rapidly reaching the leave jobs, voluntary roles, sell the house, go travelling and pretend the world isn't going to shit

So what happens if the vote goes against taking control of today’s business in the Commons?

JRM : he had one of his many children with him at chequers: ' mini mogg' was indeed a clone.
Probably signed up for all the same schools as his dad and already has the scarf. Poor kid.

So what happens if the vote goes against taking control of today’s business in the Commons?

They all get to go home early.

(Not even kidding)

The planned business for the afternoon will be off. No indicative votes

It's odd that Jacob was a Thatcherite as she was one of the founder members of Europe and was a fan of freedom of movement.
Obviously this wasn't one of the things he admired about her!
His an odd man for sure.

Oooo, something to distract from my worries, DD just had email looks like she’ll be accepted into year 2 of different degree in September. Bitter sweet as afterwards she’ll be emigrating and be in a very different time zone but I am delighted for her.