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Westminstenders: Chaos

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RedToothBrush · 25/03/2019 15:37

If anyone says they know what will happen this week....

... They don't.

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icannotremember · 26/03/2019 16:16

the DUP have done some strategic thinking and decided that much as they love Brexit, they like being the DUP in Northern Ireland even more

It's long confused me that the DUP were pro Brexit; any Brexit always seemed to me to raise the likelihood of a united Ireland coming sooner rather than later.

BercowsSilkTie · 26/03/2019 16:17

@1tisILeClerc I'm very much a throw it all together and see what happens cook. I will look at a recipe and then adapt it as I usually don't have or do t like some of the ingredients. My nana was the same. I don't think she even owned scales. She measured with her hands. I've inherited her baking skills, dodgy knees, and love of gin and good quality food.

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/03/2019 16:21

whymewhynow I've just emailed my appreciation to Oliver Letwin (not my MP) and, like you, received an immediate response thanking me.

BigChocFrenzy · 26/03/2019 16:23

The DUP saw Brexit as an opportunity to smash the GFA

They always opposed and hated it,
because it protects the rights of the Nationalists / Catholics
and gives a clear pathway to a Reunited Ireland, if the NI people wish this

GaspodeWonderCat · 26/03/2019 16:25

MPs will debate the various indicative vote proposals from 3pm at the latest until 7pm. Before that, up to one hour has been set aside for a debate on the business motion (ie, the process).
John Bercow, the speaker, will select what proposals get put to a vote.
At 7pm MPs will vote on the proposals on paper, saying yes or no to all of the various proposals. They will have half an hour to vote. Although they will be voting on paper, it will not be a secret ballot, and votes will be recorded.
After 7.30pm MPs will debate the statutory instrument changing the date of Brexit in the EU Withdrawal Act. That could take up to 90 minutes, and there will be a vote at the end.
At some point in the evening - probably not before 8.30pm, possibly after the SI division at 9.15pm - the speaker will announce the results.
Monday 1 April will be set aside for another indicative votes debate (presumably the run-off between the most popular options). In other words, for a second day the government will lose control of the Commons timetable.

www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/mar/26/brexit-government-may-ignore-result-of-indicative-votes-process-says-hancock-live-news at 16:12

Runningintothesunset · 26/03/2019 16:26

Oh, I’ve just had a lovely email back from Dominic Grieve Smile I’d emailed him a thank you email (as a non-constituent).

I’m off to send some more encouraging ones to others now, clearly the positive messages are having an impact. A love-bomb for those trying desperately to save the country!

DGRossetti · 26/03/2019 16:27

It's long confused me that the DUP were pro Brexit; any Brexit always seemed to me to raise the likelihood of a united Ireland coming sooner rather than later.

I didn't say they were smart.

With the caveat that my knowledge of partisan politics doesn't emanate from Ireland, it's highly likely that there's certain amount of believing your own hype here ... the DUP are raised on tales of how they are superior to those in the Republic, etc etc. Which could have led to a judgement that as soon as the Brexit crowbar was applied, the Republic would (as they've taught themselves over the years) fold and it would be like the good old days.

Instead, the Republic not only didn't fold, but turned up with 27 mates for moral support. Moreover. 27 mates who do have a dog in this fight and aren't going to give up on a friend in need. (Which because it's what the DUP would have done, is what they assume others would do).

Moreover, the dragging out of Brexit (which let's remember was not only not mentioned, but rubbished by Leave) has meant there has been time for the people on the ground to realise what is happening, what is likely to happen, and how best to deal with that.

I'm probably miles wide of the mark. But while on the one hand, the situation in Ireland is unique, on the other hand, it's a creation of humans. And human behaviour the world over, since time immemorial has been tiresomely predictable - especially in masses.

TalkinPaece · 26/03/2019 16:37

Loving the data mining on here now ....
www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584
Signatures per hour by constituency
and being able to just look at Northern Ireland, some twitchy DUP folks I suspect
the next General election could be fun
let alone the 2nd May local elections

Holidayshopping · 26/03/2019 16:41

The BBC live Brexit news on the app is interesting.

It’s full of ‘x says the tide is turning and MPs are seeing that May’s Deal is probably the way to go’ and ‘x voted against the MP on Mv2 but will support her on MV3’.

Real new and or just desperate spin??

Holidayshopping · 26/03/2019 16:42

‘Real news’ that should say!

havingtochangeusernameagain · 26/03/2019 16:47

It’s not Brexit , it is a binding treaty and it is designed to see us fail completely as a country. Remain is a better option than this toxic surrender document

Remain is absolutely fine with me, Arron. But I fail to see the horror of the WA. It is "only" the withdrawal agreement, after all.

I got Canada plus on that survey! Oh well.

1tisILeClerc · 26/03/2019 16:48

{Real news and or just desperate spin??}
'make mine a Babycham'*

*Other alcoholic and slightly sickly beverages are available.

prettybird · 26/03/2019 16:52

This YouTube video from Adam Fleming is hilarious Grin

#ASMR meets #Brexit

Watch right to the end (it's only about 3 minutes) Grin

dontcallmelen · 26/03/2019 17:04

Have emailed Dominic, Oliver & my MP thanking them agree a bit of lovebombing is a good thing, will also email Anna Soubry whoever else I can think of.

Runningintothesunset · 26/03/2019 17:06

Melon - that was my list, plus Yvette Cooper

Icantreachthepretzels · 26/03/2019 17:22

The petition is just over 5,752 million. If you're wondering what that is in our rearview mirror - it's only the entire population of Denmark (5,749 million)
Next target on our 'how many EU country populations can we overtake with just one petition' adventure is Bulgaria at 7,102 million. Might take a bit of chasing down - that one - so please keep sharing the link to anyone you can think of.
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

Another upcoming milestone is that when it hits 5.8 million we will be a third of the way to 17.4 million signatures. And then onward to 6 million. Come on!

dontcallmelen · 26/03/2019 17:23

Ooh yes Running Yvette as well must confess I have a bit of a crush on Yvette😳

1tisILeClerc · 26/03/2019 17:25

Although about a month old, this is a brilliant summary of Brexit.

Icantreachthepretzels · 26/03/2019 17:41

I took a leaf out of pp's book and just emailed my thanks to Oliver Letwin. I might go back and email every tory rebel on the list of people who voted for the Letwin amendment. Can't hurt... just need to find what page the list was on.

Sostenueto · 26/03/2019 17:43

Petition is now to be debated in Westminster Hall on Monday yay!Smile

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/03/2019 17:44

Fab news!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/03/2019 17:44

So we've got six more days to grow it!

67chevvyimpala · 26/03/2019 17:47

Just e mailed Oliver letwin and Yvette cooper.

Motheroffourdragons · 26/03/2019 17:48

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NoWordForFluffy · 26/03/2019 17:51

It got this response from the government today:

It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.
Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.
The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.
British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.
This Government stands by this commitment.
Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.
Department for Exiting the European Union.

Still banging that tired drum.

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