Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?

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I promise I won’t ask you anymore questions or it turn into a slanging match, you are untitled to your opinion.
I don’t know anyone of my friends who voted leave, the odd acquaintance who voted leave “because they didn’t really understand” but the people I am friendly with all seem to be remianers. We are in our 30s and to teaching, sales and banking type jobs. Dh is a solicitor and all do law in one form.
I was wondering if certain sectors voted leave generally and if what you did for a living influenced your leave vote, and if you could possibly explain why the leave vote would benefit your sector. I am not here to judge at all just trying to understand

I can’t claim to have been around for the 1975 referendum, or indeed when we joined the EEC, but the idea that the public were deceived about what it was seems like a myth to me

I was a young child then but those who I have spoken to who were old enough to vote then, just recall the EEC being about economics and trade. Am not saying there was deceit but any message about it being anything more than an economic community didn't seem to get through. Interpretation can also play a part. We can talk about unity but that can just be interpreted as intergovernmental cooperation . As i said though, i was a child at the time and am going by what those who did vote have said. There is a book called How To Lose A Referendum which says the same thing about the 1975 campaign. Very interesting book. Worth a read.

To answer a question from above - Yes haulage has to work within the the UK and EU ruling and its a ball ache!
Leavers I know.

Business owners x 4 - 1 is a business that is in a country within Europe but not in the UK and that country does very well, this is why my friend voted leave, another a owner of a haulage and salavage business that is being crippled by the huge increase in cost that make it possible to come into UK and buy up cheaper than UK business can and then sell it back - hundreds of jobs on the line.
GP
Psychotherapist
Couple of HR managers
Police Officer.
Barrister
GP x 2
Fisherman
Couple of senior NHS workers
I know quiet a few who voted leave and would do so again, very intelligent people on all levels!

It's know more remainers than leavers and I can honestly say the leavers all given proper sound reasons for leaving

There has Been much confusion from remainers. .... I won't get the echip ( sp) health card.
I won't be able to visit, live or work in Europe.
We won't be part of Europe.

Etc Etc Etc.

Remainers.... teachers , lecturers, bankers, solicitors, cleaners ,

Leavers , CEO, musicians, teachers, lecturer, barrister, doctor, cleaners.

Leavers seem to have simply thought about it more, to my mind possibly because it Is the going against the grain train of thought.

People unswayed by EU propaganda.
There's a good reason that older generation voted leave. They remembered what it was supposed to be,they saw the results and said no thanks!!

Of course what op is trying to find out from middle class Mumsnetters is how lowly and uneducated leave voters might be.

Nearly everyone I know voted remain, except for:

• my parents. Both retired. Big fans of the Daily Mail. Voted mainly for 'sovereignty'. They both have a view of Britain that harks back to their education in the 1950s, when much of the globe was still coloured pink, and they were taught brainwashed that Britannia still ruled the waves. They have a strong sense that Britain is a superior nation. Have been known to espouse racist opinions. Don't want Johnny Foreigner telling us what to do, thank-you very much.
• My DGF, who was 94 at the time, now sadly deceased. Voted out as didn't want to be in the same club as the Germans, following the war. Wanted instead to be free to pal up with Russia, who had, after all, come in with us during the war. Reasons mostly related to WW2.
• a DJ. Public school educated, but not a graduate. Strong sense of Britain's superiority.
• a marketing manager. Who, ironically, benefitted from being able to work in an EU capital city for a few years, earning double what he would have been able to earn here.
• a private tutor. Born-again Christian, who believes some kind of prophecy that has the EU as the second anti-Christ. Or something. Believes we are living in the 'end times' and it's our destiny to leave.

The remainers do a variety of jobs, ranging from banking, middle-senior managers in corporate world, business owners, senior civil servants, doctors, accountants, a solicitor, administrator, cleaner, osteopath.

Leavers I know:
x2 teachers
x1 lorry driver
x2 unemployed
x1 small business owner - now regrets as is fucked
x1 retiree - also regrets as realises she will be poorer and needs meds

Work in Education.

DH in software.

DM NHS management

DF NHS

Friends:
SAHM of tech husband
Social worker
Small business owner

Old people are racist and people without degrees are thickos? Wow.

Just some examples..

Leave

1.Retired (FIL)
2.Retired (Friend's Mum)

1. Retired /Carer
2. Cleaner

5.Insurance lawyer

1. BT engineer
2. Financial advisor
3. Lorry driver
4. SAHM

10. Military pilot 11. Fashion marketing person

Remainers

1. Four solicitors

2.Three barristers

1. About ten university lecturers
2. Two retired university lecturers
3. Charity worker
4. HR professional
5. Retired librarian
6. Cleaner
7. Actor

10. Two NHS consultant doctors 11. Landlord 12. Management consultant 13 Kitchen worker 14 Unemployed 15 School receptionist 16 Nursery worker 17 App designer 18 Food quality inspector 19 Insurance claims handler 20 SAHM 21 Music teacher

Just scrolling down and noticing how many leave Barristers there appear to be. How did they feel seeing Judges touted as Enemies Of The People? And how did they square the circle of being on the same 'side' as Grayling?

It really does depend on which circles you move in what jobs leavers you know have.
I agree with those upthread who said that leavers they know are intelligent and informed and did lots of thinking before they voted- due to it being against the grain of wider acceptability.
CEO
2xcompamy directors
2xsenior lecturers
Teacher
All have lived abroad with work and are well travelled and informed about European politics. Enough to know the bullshit we Brits have been spoon fed for years.

The leavers I know are:

Child of farmers - fed up with EU laws and very well informed about what they thought they were voting for. The reality is very different and they are disappointed in how it's turned out.

Small business owner - ditto above.

Call centre worker - ex-financial services manager - felt that we as a county should be making our own decisions about things rather then relying on the EU. Doesn't feel we're part of "Europe" - ie the mainland.

Twat who decided it was all to do with immigration (from non EU countries!!!). Had no idea what it meant. Has changed their mind.

Sorry, twat is a builder, but I don't think it would make a difference what their profession was, they're just a twat in general!

Ex PILs - both retired and living in Spain most of the year.

Farmer x 2

What a lot of people don't seem to realise who describe leavers as 'turkeys voting for Christmas' is that for a lot of those people, it was already Christmas eve and they had nothing much to lose. The fault of austerity rather than the EU but an important factor nonetheless.

I'm amazed at all the Teachers (&Nurses) that are mostly listed as Leavers....I have been a teacher and would have been surprised if the majority of my ex colleagues voted Leave.....especially History/Economic teachers.
Lecturers I'm really gob smacked about (although maybe they at FE not HE? I live in university city and all the people I know are heartbroken we have to Leave (myself included)

All those retired in Spain but voted Leave are going to have a bit of a shock!

Business owner
Managing Director
Accountant
NHS professional
.................all educated to degree level

CoffeeRunner you clearly have no idea how much 'general intelligence' it takes to be either a headteacher or an accountant!

I voted remain, live in a remain area. I work in an office, have no degree. Everyone I know voted remain, except for my family. None of them have degrees either. They all live a pretty comfortable life.

DF - retired - voted leave "because of the EU army and paying taxes to Brussels".
DM - retired - xenophobic and racist views. Thinks things were better before we joined the EU and we "have too much" these days!
DB - engineer, high earner - not entirely sure why but he mentioned something about the high speed railway from London and thinks the EU is on the way out anyway. Resorted to name calling when challenged on his views.
DGM - in her 90s - thinks things were better before EU, wants to go back to how things were before. Hates Germans because of the war. Daily Express reader.

We have some interesting "discussions" about Brexit.

Why is the choice to remain more intelligent than the choice to leave. I've met many remainers who have no clue how the E.U. works but voted remain because it's the safe option.

Thank you this is really interesting. To the previous poster who asked if I started this thread as a class thing. I just wondered if certain professions knew more than I knew having dealt with EU regulation?! I wondered what really difference to their jobs would it make not having EU regulation. There is a clear divide with the people I know and my DH’s friends. My friends have a lot less money and opportunity for their families then dh and his friends do and there is a class divide. We don’t discuss politics but all get in well and love each other and without causing a riot, I wanted to know if my experience is typical.
It’s a mixed bag really, a lot of high earning leave voters but a more “normal” earning people than I thought there would be. I find the reason people do things very interesting, I love statistics and patterns in people’s behaviour and was just wondering that’s all

The only leaver I know is a grammar school teacher.

Thanks for the thread OP.

It appears to have debunked the myth that Leave voters are are uneducated. I'm pleased to see that there are plenty of voters on both sides of the debate from all walks of life.

Leavers in my experience include business owners, barristers, solicitor, judge, economists etc. Plenty of very smart people. Different for different people but leave appears about sovereignty (a very important concept and not something in my view to be disposed of lightly), dislike of the unattractive and possibly corrupt aspects of the EU machine, a belief we would get great and better trading deals elsewhere, having been missold the EU concept in the 70s. Not all necessarily thought it would immediately benefit the country economically but considered it better in the long term on principle. Probably some would prefer to remain than take the deal currently on the table.

My sense perhaps wrongly is that most who voted to remain did so pragmatically ie fear of impact on the economy and absence of a better alternative given where we are not because they deeply believe in the great European project.

Biggest difference I have noted is geographic - remainers seem very vocal in London. Most leavers in know live outside London.