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Brexit

Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?

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Shookethtothecore · 22/03/2019 19:13

I promise I won’t ask you anymore questions or it turn into a slanging match, you are untitled to your opinion.
I don’t know anyone of my friends who voted leave, the odd acquaintance who voted leave “because they didn’t really understand” but the people I am friendly with all seem to be remianers. We are in our 30s and to teaching, sales and banking type jobs. Dh is a solicitor and all do law in one form.
I was wondering if certain sectors voted leave generally and if what you did for a living influenced your leave vote, and if you could possibly explain why the leave vote would benefit your sector. I am not here to judge at all just trying to understand

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 22/03/2019 20:56

Trust me I know less than intelligent people who voted remain, one of my friends whose reasoning was “well we all come from immigrants” ....fact is when you make sweeping statements and judgements on people who voted either way you close your ears and mind off to the real issues and arguments- and become part of the problem!

AnneOfCleanTables · 22/03/2019 20:56

Common denominator amongst us is that we have all lived and worked abroad in various countries, so perhaps we can see how a life can be built outside of the EU
That applies to some of the Leave voters I know too.

Chewbecca · 22/03/2019 21:01

My retired parents did ‘we were fine before and we’ll be fine again’ being the logic.
My office manager husband did, I can’t begin to explain why as I don’t understand it, he gets all defensive when I probe.
Retired MiL did ‘not sure why’.
Policeman friend x2 and their wives did.
Secretary friend did ‘too many immigrants’

I am strongly remain and do struggle with this.

GirlsBlouse17 · 22/03/2019 21:03

In 1973, the U.K. voted to join the Common Market, as it was known then

Joining the Common Market (EEC) was in the manifestos of all the mainstream parties in the 1970 General Election so there wasn't actually a party to vote for if you didn't want to join, unless you voted for one of the extreme parties such as the National Front! So we joined the Common Market under PM Edward Heath in 1973 without much choice in the matter. However there was a Referendum in 1975 to stay in or leave, but the public then didn't have much appetite for change and further uncertainty as the energy crisis and high inflation and unemployment dominated their concerns

ForOldLandsEye · 22/03/2019 21:05

The leavers I know are as follows:

Business owner
Finance Manager
Chief Accountant
Solicitor
Barrister
Detective Inspector
Retired MD
Clinical Research Associate
Medical Writer
Logistics Manager
Events Planner

All live in the Midlands or North West.

Ironfloor269 · 22/03/2019 21:09

Engineer
Retail manager
Psychiatrist
Homemaker
Volunteer paramedic
Retail employee
Unemployed

I voted remain, by the way.

Chlo1674 · 22/03/2019 21:14

If the leave voters I know two are business owners (one in the leisure industry the other in IT). Another is a property developer.

Chlo1674 · 22/03/2019 21:15

Oh and I know someone else who is a retired project manager who voted leave as well.

nespressowoo · 22/03/2019 21:15

Health visitor

Livvylovesgin · 22/03/2019 21:18

Retired DF, entertainer. Lived and worked for most of his life in Europe, earned good money with fantastic work opportunities. Retired to Europe. Received free life saving medical care and major operations in Europe.
Doesn't give a reason for voting leave.
I find his selfish attitudes unbearable. My DS (student) can't talk to him ATM.

Smellybluecheese · 22/03/2019 21:18

Almost everyone I know voted remain apart from

  1. Retired
  2. Firefighter
  3. Archivist
GirlsBlouse17 · 22/03/2019 21:18

Watch the lecturer on Parliament channel now. Is interesting. May help to explain about the sovereignty and control issue

Jsmith99 · 22/03/2019 21:21

I didn’t vote Leave, but of those I know who did, one is an IT geek (who has also been known to wear a MAGA cap), another works on the railways and all the rest are retired.

SleepingSloth · 22/03/2019 21:31

The leaver voters include a plumber, barman, cleaner, a few who work in car maufacturing and a few retired people. Reasons were 'to get our country back', 'it can't be any worse', 'time for a change' and 'sick of immigrants'. All of them are thick as pigshit, most I'm ashamed to say are related to me. Thankfully I don't see most of them I person, just their interesting comments on Facebook.

UnderHerEye · 22/03/2019 21:37

Remainers tend to be people who have benefitted personally from EU membership, and who hope to carry on doing so, mainly in the relatively prosperous south. Leavers tend to be those who have suffered financially under the EU yoke, and who can see no improvement to that situation - fishermen, manufacturing industry workers, small businesses, shopkeepers

I think this sums it up perfectly!

lljkk · 22/03/2019 21:47

Uk Fisherman rely on EU trade deals to sell majority of their fish (EU residents are customers, British don't want to buy most fish British fisherpeople catch). While the fish are still in top quality condition so can fetch best price.

Small businesses shopkeepers: rely on cheap EU labour, cheap EU imports, reliable product quality. Dependent on entire economy doing well.

Manufacturing... well, even the gung-ho Brexit economists said that Leaving EU would destroy UK manufacturing. They argued this was a good thing.

So I guess they all voted to be poorer. Who knew?

Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?
7salmonswimming · 22/03/2019 21:50

I don’t think that’s true, actually (referring to UnderHerEye and poster quoted).

Many Leavers gained financially, socially, educationally from membership, and had other more ‘philosophical’ reasons for leaving eg what the EU has turned into, where the EU is headed, the UK’s (actually probably England’s) colonial history.

It’s really not a binary issue, appealing though that might be.

Gronky · 22/03/2019 22:00

I've worked in biological sciences for the last 35 years, currently, I have a senior role (a mixture of hands on work and team management) that's evenly split between research and bulk commercial analysis.

Lonelycrab · 22/03/2019 22:08

Retired,
Retired,
Retired,
Software engineer
Cleaner
Receptionist/technician

Sm192 · 22/03/2019 22:14

I voted to leave and I'm a nurse, also a lot of my colleagues voted leave. All degree educated.

bobiana · 22/03/2019 22:15

@girlsblouse17 and @Absolutepowercorrupts

But it doesn’t seem to me that people ever were told that the EEC was solely about trade.

I can’t claim to have been around for the 1975 referendum, or indeed when we joined the EEC, but the idea that the public were deceived about what it was seems like a myth to me.

Harold Wilson made it clear to parliament that it was about political unity as well as economics when we applied to join:

“But whatever the economic arguments, the House will realise that, as I have repeatedly made clear, the Government’s purpose derives, above all, from our recognition that Europe is now faced with the opportunity of a great move forward in political unity and that we can and indeed must — play our full part in it.”

Ted Heath said during the negotiations to join that the community is “far more than a common market”:

“The community which we are joining is far more than a common market. It is a community in the true sense of that term. It is concerned not only with the establishment of free trade, economic and monetary union and other major economic issues, important though these are — but also as the Paris Summit Meeting has demonstrated, with social issues which affect us all — environmental questions, working conditions in industry, consumer protection, aid to development areas and vocational training.”

Aside from that, all of the campaign literature for the leave side of the argument during the 75 referendum referred to sovereignty issues as one of the main arguments for leaving.

Again, I wasn’t there, so i cant say from experience, but I find it hard to believe the theory that it was kept secret until the 90s.

Happy to be corrected if there’s evidence that I’m wrong.

YeOldeTrout · 22/03/2019 22:19

"I was wondering how many voted for stability or succeeds in their line of work vs other reasons...[maybe leave voters] cope with risk much better."

I wouldn't say the Leave voters I know are 'risk' takers. 1) very c/Conservative (retired, housewife for 35 yrs, bank clerk before that). 2) onery (works for job centre, so civil servant?). 3) creative SAHM married to a car mechanic. 4) Cheerful glass-half-full administrator who gets jobs in small businesses. They all seem ordinary people.

DS was too young 2 vote. He is fervent Leaver; he has been radicalised by Alt-right ideas & loves authoritarianism. There have been studies showing that a distinctive trait of many Leave voters is embracing authoritarianism. If you want to look for defining trait, that's supposed to be the one.

Crystalblue13 · 22/03/2019 22:26

Healthcare assistant
Civil servant
Royal Navy nurse
Production planner
Hairdresser
Psychologist

TeacupDrama · 22/03/2019 22:29

my friends are roughly more in favour of leaving mostly to do with laws democracy and accountability

leavers occupations 2 retired housewives were SAHM, retired nurse and paralegal 2 social workers, financial adviser to the seriously wealthy, 2 x teacher in private school, electrical engineer, 1 nurse, consultant surgeon, detective ( only 2 of these are anti-immigration or rather think it needs to be much much less)

remainers 1 nurse, TA, chemical engineer, carpenter, policeman athletics coach, long distance lorry driver, merchant seaman, junior doctor, solicitor , pharmacist

although more graduates voted remain, 40-42% of graduates ( depending on source) voted leave less than the general population but not a tiny minority of graduates

Gronky · 22/03/2019 22:35

although more graduates voted remain, 40-42% of graduates ( depending on source) voted leave less than the general population but not a tiny minority of graduates

It would be interesting (though difficult to accurately measure) to see how this breaks down across fields, particularly between STEM and non-STEM.

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