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Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?

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Shookethtothecore · 22/03/2019 19:13

I promise I won’t ask you anymore questions or it turn into a slanging match, you are untitled to your opinion.
I don’t know anyone of my friends who voted leave, the odd acquaintance who voted leave “because they didn’t really understand” but the people I am friendly with all seem to be remianers. We are in our 30s and to teaching, sales and banking type jobs. Dh is a solicitor and all do law in one form.
I was wondering if certain sectors voted leave generally and if what you did for a living influenced your leave vote, and if you could possibly explain why the leave vote would benefit your sector. I am not here to judge at all just trying to understand

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TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 12:25

Give it up Clavinova, your head is firmly in the sand, we get it.

As if the swine flu outbreak were even remotely comparable to No Deal.

4 &1/2 months of insulin stockpile for one brand. And if disruption continues for longer - 6 months, 8 months...?

This country simply isn’t ready for No Deal, which would be chaos.

Clavinova · 27/03/2019 13:21

TatianaLarina

Give it up Clavinova, your head is firmly in the sand, we get it.

Can't we just agree to disagree on this one?

I have no reason to doubt the assurances of the Government/ Department of Health & Social Care and the opinion of the procurement director for NHS South of England/chief officer of Health Care Supply Association.

(Would it be unfair of me to mention that the analyst you quoted appears to have Turkish parents and/or grandparents? Oops - I looked at Facebook - Istanbul is major city in Turkey isn't it? Grin)

TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 13:31

It’s already over.

I have no reason to doubt the assurances of the Government

😂

Interesting that you take the assurances of a local procurement chief over that of the chief executive of the NHS Federation, and ex chief executive of the GMC.

If you were to highlight the origin of the you would merely confirm the racism profile of Leavers

TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 13:33

analyst ^^

Clavinova · 27/03/2019 13:50

I know when I'm being lied to - and Brexit is not the cause of current medicine shortages - you only have to look back at my links to see that. Remainers (with an agenda) hold offices at the highest level - we know that already.

If you were to highlight the origin of the analyst you would merely confirm the racism profile of Leavers

Pointing out potential bias is not racism.

TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 14:02

I know when I'm being lied to

🤣

Dear god. The combination of racism and self deception is textbook.

Clavinova · 27/03/2019 14:08

TatianaLarina
Is that all you've got to say?

A silly poem, insults and quotes from The Guardian Grin

TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 14:17

This discussion was over a long time ago you just failed to notice.

Clavinova · 27/03/2019 14:21

This discussion was over a long time ago you just failed to notice.

Oh - I had noticed that you'd given up - quite happy posting my links for other people to read.

TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 14:26

You can’t reason with stupidity.

If you want to highlight your racism & delusion that’s up to you.

jaynelovesagathachristie · 27/03/2019 14:28

I know 3 leavers my dad an IT helpdesk worker, an uncle I've blocked on social media , a care home manager and a guy from school - ex army.

Clavinova · 27/03/2019 14:28

You can’t reason with stupidity
Indeed Grin

jewel1968 · 27/03/2019 14:37

The leave voters I know are:
2 senior civil servants
1 history professor
1 unemployed
1 individual in senior management

I have spoken to some at length and they have well thought out reasons (although you may disagree with the ) along the lines of T. Benn.

Snugglepiggy · 27/03/2019 15:16

DH and I both self employed small business owners.
Finance director in a local company.
Self employed joiner.
Garage owner.
Recently 3 remainers amongst friends who would now definitely vote Leave.Teacher. Carpet manufacturer.Textile designer.
The angriest Remainer I know who can barely contain her contempt for anyone with a different oppinion is a retired teacher with a solid pension and a sizeable inheritance whose biggest gripe is how it will affect her travel plans.Ironically she never holidays in Europe.Always long haul ,exotic destinations that require visas anyway.
I've distanced myself from her because I find it insulting that she lumps all leavers together as racist when she knows when I was younger my best friend at school was from a Sri Lankan family and I loved hanging out at her home,I grew up in a house where my mum learned Urdu to better communicate with women in her job,and DH and I gave free board and lodging for months to a student from a country recovering from civil war so he could study at our DCs college.I never wanted Brexit to end a friendship but she is so bloody negative and patronising whatever the outcome it's run it's course.
Fortunately I have plenty of other friends who can agree to disagree in a much more respectful way.

thetoddleratemyhomework · 27/03/2019 16:57

Just wondering about the education thing. The degree thing is quoted a lot, but that might also be explained partly by age. My dad is a trained accountant, but never went to university, he qualified on the job then rode to a directorship with that company as did some elders or retired people in other professions that would now require a degree as a gateway (lawyers often did articles without a degree, nurses etc). I voted remain, but both my PIL have degrees in economics and voted leave, predominantly on sovereignty grounds. In their generation there were very few graduates, but that didn't preclude having a decent career/level of education. I would want to be 100% sure on statistics before making too many assumptions!!

DustyDiamond · 27/03/2019 17:18

Leavers I know:
A spectrum from unskilled workers to professionals, students voting for the first time to pensioners.

Me: former armed forces, currently a student

A range of politics as well: SNP, Tory & Labour (not sure if any Lib Dem's though)

TatianaLarina · 27/03/2019 17:36

The education angle is not specific to age.

There is strong evidence from different quarters that the Leave vote is inextricably linked to lower levels of education, skills, income and employment. From the Rowntree Foundation, local voting figures obtained by the BBC, to Lord Ashcroft’s exit poll - the data is consistent.

One piece of research by Leicester uni found that education was the key factor. Going so far as to say that Britain would have likely voted to Remian were its population educated to a slightly higher level.

Researchers calculated that if 3% more of the population gone to uni, we would likely not be leaving. They found that uni or other HE was the ‘predominant factor’ in how people voted.

Not commenting on the legitimacy of their argument, haven’t looked at it in detail, simply reporting their findings.

Ironically, the Leave campaign was clear of their target audience. A senior backroom campaigner was reported to have said: ’our people are the old, the badly educated and the poor’.

All this doesn’t explain your parents with their economics degrees, who had the tools to identify the black holes in the economic argument for Leave such as it was. But the specious sovereignty argument seduced quite a few.

Davros · 27/03/2019 17:41

Leavers I know:
Consultant/surgeon
Masters student in their 20s
2 x SAHP /carer
Senior HCP
Psychotherapist
2 x small/specialist business owners
Admin assistant
Retired (before 50!) City/finance worker
Part-time tour guide, originally from EU country
Owner of medium sized IT company

Figmentofmyimagination · 27/03/2019 17:57

Leavers I know are -

  • retired police inspector
  • lecturer and passionate lifelong opponent of EU
  • very wealthy retired accountant
  • trade union activist
  • supermarket shelf stacker.

The top three are paid up members of the Conservative party.

That’s it.

PizzaCafe2016 · 28/03/2019 04:52

A senior backroom campaigner was reported to have said: ’our people are the old, the badly educated and the poor

It's called targeting your audience and telling them what they want to hear so they feel good.

Over 65's make up 20% of the total population (13.5 Million)

Poverty is estimated to be 14 million people. This is made up of; 8.2 million working adults, 4.1 million children and 1.9 million pensioners.

Subtract the 1.9 million pensioner in poverty from the 13.5 million total pensioners gives 11.6 million. Now add 4.1 million working adults in poverty gives 15.7 million.

There are 38.5 million aged between 21 and 64 in the UK. 42% have university education. the 58% that are not university educated make up 22.3 million. Assuming that includes the 4.1 million working adults in poverty leaves a balance of 18.2 million. Add that to the 15.7 million who make up pensioners and those living in poverty gives a total of almost 34 million of the entire UK population which is 50%. More significantly it represents 73% of the eligible voting population.

WOW.

Easy to see how leave won if the logic that it appeals most to those who are either, old, poor or not highly educated is correct.

Prettyvase · 28/03/2019 07:15

I really hope there will be a second referendum as the leavers I know believe they were duped; there are plenty of the younger generation who didn't have a chance to vote then as too young but who would vote remain if they could now; and the pensioners who voted leave were not interested in the future of business relations or how it might negatively effect the younger generation, as they are retired and don't really care!

Also, it doesn't look good to the rest of the world if we can't get on with our immediate neighbours!

Boris Johnson is just a horrific example of an arrogant old school cheating MP akin to Trump and as for the awful misogynistic Corbyn, how can any woman in their right mind vote for either of them or for a party who has never trusted a woman to be at the helm?

StealthPolarBear · 28/03/2019 07:17

But why would there be a second referendum when it has no support

LonelyTiredandLow · 28/03/2019 07:25

@Stealth they are voting on having a People's Vote in HoC. It has far more support than May's deal. 1 mil ppl marched for one and 6 mil have signed a petition to revoke altogether. You could say all leave has had recently is 80 guys turning up for a long walk...

loveshinealight · 28/03/2019 07:31

I'm Scotland based and yet to meet a leaver!

BuildingBridges4 · 28/03/2019 07:37

Headteacher
Everyone I know who voted leave has a degree.

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