Revoke Article 50 petition 2

[MrPan]

Finished the last thread, here's a replacement...

1400 or so to go.

5,999,111

Only 710 to go to get to 6m

If you are on Whatsapp

saveourfuture.uk/revoke/

It's over 6m now!

Yay :)

Six million woo hoo!

Ah 68 per minute made it happen quicker than expected. Yay!

Still going..

6,005,198
and an average of 42 votes per minute

If you want a voice on the next Conservative Party leader join the Conservative party ! You don't need to be a citizen but must live here, and be over 15.

And you must be a member for 3 months before you can participate. Please Join Today ! We need competent politicians.
www.kcfc.org.uk/membership

Perhaps the WhatsApp message is bringing in audience for the petition.

Yuck I’ve just held my breath and joined the Tory party so I can vote in any leadership election... < not envy

6,027,924

average 12 per minute

Keep sharing the petition and ask your kids to sign, it is their future!

6,046,681 average 6 per minute

Keep sharing the petition and ask your kids to sign, it is their future!

Kids signing is why nobody trusts the petition

Kids signing is why nobody trusts the petition

Exactly so

theres kids and kids though.
16 and 17 year olds, competant to make a decision,

4 year olds not so much.

Why would it be acceptable to revoke Article 50?
The British people voted to Leave, the politicians have a clear mandate to follow through with the will of the people and leave the oppressive EU!
The HOC voted to trigger Article 50, but they are now going back on their promise.

Kids signing is why nobody trusts the petition

It's a petition, not a vote. It's not supposed to be an accurate count of the number of eligible voters who want to revoke Article 50. It's simply indicative of people's feelings.

The question is less to do with how many signatures are from non-eligible voters, and more to do with why remainers feel so strongly about signing a petition that they have either done so in their millions or gone to the effort of signing multiple times. And why is it that leaver petitions do not attract the same strong feelings?

And why is it that leaver petitions do not attract the same strong feelings?

You have already answered that yourself with;

It's a petition, not a vote

Mayhem

No, I haven't. That's not the answer. Why do you think it is? That only explains why the number of signatures on a petition is lower than the number of votes in an election or referendum. It doesn't explain the difference between remain petitions and leave petitions which was what I was asking.

To ShushYou

Maybe those who voted leave are more aware than those who voted remain that petitions mean nothing? The option to revoke received the least number of votes.

Mayhem

That could be true. It's certainly one possible answer (although if that's the case, there are several leavers who seem pretty unsettled by it). But, yes, that's what I'm getting at - why is there such a difference?

My personal suggestion is that leave is currently the default position and people tend to sign petitions because they want to change something. Leave doesn't represent a change to the course of action which is why leavers aren't signing petitions in great numbers.

Maybe those who voted leave are more aware than those who voted remain that petitions mean nothing?

One of the issue we hear from leavers is that their voices have gone unheard and that no one listens to them. In a democracy we need to interact with our politicians and not just at election time.

A petition should not automatically become government policy but they demonstrate a strength of public feeling. A petition should not result in a sudden policy change but they should influence decisions and be listened to respectfully.

If we all just dismiss views we do not agree with out of hand and say those views "mean nothing" then the disillusionment and disengagement will only increase.

We need to listen and pay attention to each other.