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Westminstenders: Screaming at the TV.

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RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 16:16

Theresa May has asked for a short extension until 30th June, after Cabinet Brexiteers stopped her asking for a longer extension.

She has not stated the purpose of the extension beyond 'to pass her deal'. Which does not have a majority, because if it did May would be overturn the standing order Bercow invoked to block MVIII.

The EU have not reacted well to the request. Noises from France sound negative.

That doesn't mean we won't get one, but its not looking good. If we do it looks unlikely to go beyond May 23rd and EU elections.

We do not expect a response from the EU until Monday.

May has therefore in practice reinstated the possibility of no deal next Friday. Or at the end of any extension we do get.

She is due to give a speech on a podum at 6pm tonight.

Parliament has called an emergency debate on the extension to try and take control of debate. It, so far, looks like no more that the Brexit Secretary filibusting. Its going round and round in circles going no where.

Meanwhile rumours that Operation Yellowhammer will kick in on Monday are in the air. That's the first steps to martial law to manage no deal. This is very bad.

9 days to go.

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OMGithurts · 20/03/2019 16:56

Jesus wept BCF, I think I might vomit Sad

Motheroffourdragons · 20/03/2019 16:57

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StripeyChina · 20/03/2019 16:57

OMG true, sorry.

I have to be at a School Show tonight with my phone off from 7-10.
Will be twitchy!

PickleSarnie · 20/03/2019 16:57

Delurking. Hope you don't mind.

My hope has almost entirely left me. Up until now, I thought that TM might see sense at the last minute (although feck knows why if her past behaviour is anything to go by)

I switch between wanting to cry and just being really fecking angry (and not just because I'm supposed to be skiing in France at Easter)

If, between now and the 29th, TM sees sense, can she re-ask for an extension with the grounds being a PV?

HazardGhost · 20/03/2019 16:58

Ta red

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2019 16:58

So if the will of the HoC transpired to be long extension and PV, TM's word (ha!) to the ERG is binding and it can't happen?

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 16:58

@red Have you come across those 2 Revoke problems ?

If the WA does not pass next week, then we probably have Tusk's "extraordinary summit" on 28 / 29 March, to discuss a loooong extension

during which Revoke may look a lot more feasible than dropping red lines and putting SM in the PD
< as it would take Parliament about 20 years to agree to drop them >

DGRossetti · 20/03/2019 16:59

Interesting to see/hear the name Laker ... wasn't he a proto-Thatcher idol ? Until he was shafted by BA ? Branson knows a thing or two (except he's bound by an NDA as I recall ????)

67chevvyimpala · 20/03/2019 16:59

Fuckadoodledoo

prettybird · 20/03/2019 17:00

My placemarking photograph of cats on a radiator plus drying clothes Blush appears on the app but not on the desktop Confused

QueenMabby · 20/03/2019 17:00

PMK with an OMFG....

HazardGhost · 20/03/2019 17:01

Paddy power suspending GE bets as there's been a flood of high stake bets placed.

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 17:01

DG Freddy Laker was an early attempt at Ryanair, which flopped

TatianaLarina · 20/03/2019 17:03

Reported rumours that May is going to say “my deal with short delay” or “long delay with a purpose - GE or affirmative vote by public”. No 10 sources say she wants to “bounce back to the people because of MPs inability”.

Anyone heard similar?

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 17:03

He was indeed a Tory idol until the flop, then an unperson

Rather like the Herald of Free Enterprise sinking made the company unmentionable, but that had horrific loss of life

havingtochangeusernameagain · 20/03/2019 17:04

Well that sounds reasonably sensible.

BUT CAN WE ACTUALLY STOP BREXIT NEXT FRIDAY?

Do we have time to change the legislation?

MadAboutWands · 20/03/2019 17:04

Even if the hope for final success may seem frail, even illusory, and although Brexit fatigue is increasingly visible and justified, we cannot give up seeking - until the very last moment - a positive solution. #euco
From Donald Tusk.

Says it all.
Success is frail. Very frail indeed.
I think that we will end up with a No Deal. Not because anyone wanted that (ar the crazy ones from the ERG) but because none of the british politicians have any idea of how the EU is working. And because they have been too arrogant to listen when the EU told them what was or wasn’t acceptable.

A not wanted No Deal.

Probably the worst that we could have hoped for.

RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 17:04

Hi Red hope you don't mind or think me rude for asking. Am curious to know what your job is. I've been wondering if you are a reporter at Westminster? Just tell me to mind my own business if you want to

What Prettybird said

A SAHM with a young ds, but with a degree in media and history. I have an ongoing interest in how the media is used to manipulate us.

One of my lecturers wrote a book on propaganda and history and made some observations of how it would change the world (in terms of warfare) in the late 1990s. He's now dead and has been for some time, but his comments are now proving somewhat prophetic. Brexit very much fits into what he said and find it fascinating. I just wish I'd listened more at the time!

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tobee · 20/03/2019 17:04

Just in from Sky News app "90% of Britons think Brexit negotiations national humiliation.

havingtochangeusernameagain · 20/03/2019 17:04

That was to Tatiana's comment by the way.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 20/03/2019 17:04

I don’t think l can watch that thing this evening. I’m actually too scared.

EnlightenmentwasaPassingPhase · 20/03/2019 17:05

I am watching the debate live - why isn't the HoC packed?!
Excellent speeches from Greening, Benn, Grieve - the Cabinet should be there listening to this.

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 20/03/2019 17:05

I've read it may even be too late to Revoke - without an extension

Words fail. We are fucked. Totally fucked.

Bastard Tories (the Brexity ones Ken Clarke is fine).

May is such a coward. She’s pick the slow death of the Tories and fucking up the country over a quick death and doing the right thing. Where’s the bastard gin. Angry

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 17:05

So, pass the WA or it's a PV ?
Surprisingly coherent plan from May, if true

EnlightenmentwasaPassingPhase · 20/03/2019 17:05

Ooh Grieve is sticking it to May!

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