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Westminstenders: Screaming at the TV.

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RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 16:16

Theresa May has asked for a short extension until 30th June, after Cabinet Brexiteers stopped her asking for a longer extension.

She has not stated the purpose of the extension beyond 'to pass her deal'. Which does not have a majority, because if it did May would be overturn the standing order Bercow invoked to block MVIII.

The EU have not reacted well to the request. Noises from France sound negative.

That doesn't mean we won't get one, but its not looking good. If we do it looks unlikely to go beyond May 23rd and EU elections.

We do not expect a response from the EU until Monday.

May has therefore in practice reinstated the possibility of no deal next Friday. Or at the end of any extension we do get.

She is due to give a speech on a podum at 6pm tonight.

Parliament has called an emergency debate on the extension to try and take control of debate. It, so far, looks like no more that the Brexit Secretary filibusting. Its going round and round in circles going no where.

Meanwhile rumours that Operation Yellowhammer will kick in on Monday are in the air. That's the first steps to martial law to manage no deal. This is very bad.

9 days to go.

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nuttynutjob · 20/03/2019 17:22

Treeza no mates, revoke revoke

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tobee · 20/03/2019 17:22

HmmHmmHmmHmmHmmConfused

InterchangeableEmma · 20/03/2019 17:23

Here's a link to the obviously futile petition. It's growing fast, for all the good it'll do

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584?fbclid=IwAR2PsyOPGqM6d5gQIV7-m_kpejQbI2c7bAhtEBXtcHHaymHenxEPfIqEeGY

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 20/03/2019 17:24

Dh has just informed me that all bookmakers are suspending bets in a GA due to being swamped by bets.

The have JC on as winner at 4:1🙏

PestyMachtubernahme · 20/03/2019 17:24

TM will advocate TM's deal
again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...................

1tisILeClerc · 20/03/2019 17:25

I seem to remember the expression 'in good faith' being bandied around a while back.
Which bit of 'good faith' have any of the cabinet managed in the last 3 years?

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 17:25

At least 7% of the public have switched their brain off

Sky Dataa@SkyData*

New @SkyData poll:
Do you think the way the UK is dealing with Brexit is or is not a national humiliation?

Is 90%
Is not 7%
Don't know 3%

DGRossetti · 20/03/2019 17:25

Ariston ...

HazardGhost · 20/03/2019 17:26

TM wants us to get behind the deal? But no PV?

How does she except us to say we want her deal? None of the leavers I've spoken to have contacted their MPs about brexit and they don't turn out well for marches.

EweSurname · 20/03/2019 17:27

Chris Cook
@xtophercook
[If the PM does her "give a statement during the bulletins" thing, she shouldn't get carried live. The right to address The People is not part of the job. She needs context, parsing and cutting down like everyone else.]

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 17:27

nutty As posted upthread, there may be insufficient time to Revoke - unless we get an extension

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 17:28

Worst of all is when she makes statements in an article behind the Torygraph paywall Hmm

TheElementsSong · 20/03/2019 17:29

PMK Shock new thread already!

I have suffered the agonies of reading what MN Leavers think on various other threads, to save everyone else the pain.

The Leavers are tying themselves in furious knots of contradiction, some going "wah-wah-wah I didn't vote for this mess which is all the fault of Remainers" and others going "I totally voted for this to happen" and some going "Traitorous MPs blocking the Will of the Deal" and others going "The Deal is Remainian Betrayal and must be destroyed"...

Fortunately, there are a couple of things all the Leavers seem to be agreed on: (1) Brexit is still fundamentally GREAT; (2) Nothing is ever their fault; (3) PunishmentBullyingBetrayalVictimhood.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2019 17:29

I'd imagine we'd get a technical extension for either WA passing (AKA pigs flying) OR revoke (AKA rocking horse shit). Both moot, IMO.

DGRossetti · 20/03/2019 17:29

Last time I listened to a PM address the nation, it was Blair convincing me the UK needed to go to war to protect itself. Not believing even a slimy git like he would lie in such a situation I believed him Sad.

Sorry, Treeza, the days of "trust me, I'm PM" are over with this citizen.

WordsAndWorlds · 20/03/2019 17:30

I can't believe this is actually happening. Well, I completely can. But I desperately wished it wouldn't...

LouiseCollins28 · 20/03/2019 17:31

Whatever people think of her, she is still (currently Hmm) our Prime Minister, so anything she says in a formal statement should be viewed as important IMO. To just "mute" her is unreasonable. That said, she has then to use the platform afforded to her to say something credible, I am feeling less and less confident that she will.

Lisette1940 · 20/03/2019 17:32

Thanks again Red. I feel like I'm living in an episode of Cunk on Britain.

PestyMachtubernahme · 20/03/2019 17:33

if there is a positive vote in the House of Commons next week, we can finalise and formalise the decision on the extension in a written procedure.
www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/03/20/statement-by-president-donald-tusk-on-brexit

At no point did Tusk say the UK needed to pass the WA, just achieve a positive vote for.....something

Cuddlysnowleopard · 20/03/2019 17:33

PMK. Settling in for the evening with BBC Parliament. Liz Kendall talking sense?

tobee · 20/03/2019 17:34

Excellent speech from Liz Kendall

WhatWouldScoobyDoo · 20/03/2019 17:35

PMK

Struggling to keep up - with everything!

JustAnotherPoster00 · 20/03/2019 17:35

Im a bit behind and just getting through the justine greening speech, its a really good one

PMK

pepinana · 20/03/2019 17:36

God almighty

1tisILeClerc · 20/03/2019 17:37

Well I suppose if the WA did get passed on 29th, the majority in the UK would get food and meds etc. There will be some unrest in public and Westmister will turn into a battleground preventing the necessary discussions with the EU to actually complete the PA, and as it would probably take up to a year for the nonesense to die down and something like a stable government emerge it will be a while before the true activities of the Transition period kick in. There will then still be many 'arguments' within the UK about the direction it takes so what might have been a tight 2 year transition will drag on for 3, 4 or more years. Meanwhile from day 1 (a week on Monday!) businesses that are leaving will start to do that, or declare their intentions (4 year wind down for cars perhaps) which will focus a few minds. Thus the government can struggle valiantly to prove how brilliant the UK is 'on it's own' and then knock on the EU's door to ask for a cup of sugar.
It will still be cheaper than the ridiculous waste going on right now.
So in this plan, the good folks of the North (and anywhere not London) have to hang in there for about 18 months. Nelson and Colne have been waiting for a boost since the cotton industry shifted to India, so it should be a doddle.

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