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Westminstenders: Screaming at the TV.

917 replies

RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 16:16

Theresa May has asked for a short extension until 30th June, after Cabinet Brexiteers stopped her asking for a longer extension.

She has not stated the purpose of the extension beyond 'to pass her deal'. Which does not have a majority, because if it did May would be overturn the standing order Bercow invoked to block MVIII.

The EU have not reacted well to the request. Noises from France sound negative.

That doesn't mean we won't get one, but its not looking good. If we do it looks unlikely to go beyond May 23rd and EU elections.

We do not expect a response from the EU until Monday.

May has therefore in practice reinstated the possibility of no deal next Friday. Or at the end of any extension we do get.

She is due to give a speech on a podum at 6pm tonight.

Parliament has called an emergency debate on the extension to try and take control of debate. It, so far, looks like no more that the Brexit Secretary filibusting. Its going round and round in circles going no where.

Meanwhile rumours that Operation Yellowhammer will kick in on Monday are in the air. That's the first steps to martial law to manage no deal. This is very bad.

9 days to go.

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BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 21:18

Thatcher had genuine talents and did her homework
Hence she actually achieved a lot of what she wanted

She went off the rails with Poll Tax (early signs of dementia include affected judgement)
Politicians nearly always go on too long, instead of retiring on a high
(May should have retired before making her reckless Lancaster House speech in 2017, laying out the red lines)

Wenttoseainasieve · 20/03/2019 21:18

@CordeliaEarhart

I signed at about 8am and it had less than 10,000 signatures then

Songsofexperience · 20/03/2019 21:18

And don't forget Trump being cut of the same cloth.
Dark times.

tobee · 20/03/2019 21:19

I was going to make a similar concession Peregrina. But I just couldn't quite bring myself to do so.

EweSurname · 20/03/2019 21:19

Jessica Elgot
@jessicaelgot
It was a hard task, but from a couple of phone calls tonight, it seems like the prime minister’s speech has actually made Tory MPs more likely to vote against her deal

WaterQuarter · 20/03/2019 21:19

Cordelia, twitter says the petition was started two days ago although only had 16,000 signatures this morning.

MamaLovesMango · 20/03/2019 21:20

I have this fear that we have a potential dictator here

I’ve been saying this the whole time!! I just get ‘naaaaaah it’s never THAT bad’ but it starts somewhere and that address was very wrong.

Songsofexperience · 20/03/2019 21:20

Don't know if I should laugh or cry

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2019 21:20

I saw it first thing today when it was at 18k.

WaterQuarter · 20/03/2019 21:21

'seems like the prime minister’s speech has actually made Tory MPs more likely to vote against her deal'

I can't see that speech will have done anything except enrage further those who were already against her deal.

Triglesoffy · 20/03/2019 21:21

I don’t know how she can be made to go tomorrow. But I won’t be dictated to by an autocrat. She has killed democracy if that her WA goes through.

Songsofexperience · 20/03/2019 21:21

My last comment referred to the Jessica Elgot tweet

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2019 21:22

I'm glad I didn't watch the speech. I fear I may have required a new TV after throwing something heavy at it.

Wenttoseainasieve · 20/03/2019 21:22

I don't think she has the charisma to be a dictator, fortunately.

PestyMachtubernahme · 20/03/2019 21:22

That speech was like watching a psychopath. Theresa May is chilling

Oh yes, like the ones the other lifers are scared of.

Icantreachthepretzels · 20/03/2019 21:23

Since I posted that 10 000 more people had signed it ... 12 000 more people have signed it.
People are very pissed off.

AutumnCrow · 20/03/2019 21:23

Does she think she is like Thatcher? Is that her deranged rationale?

TorchesTorches · 20/03/2019 21:24

Just signed that petition. I live in the Netherlands and today is election day for the first chamber. I voted this morning and have been watching the election night news. It has been a nice contrast to see a functioning government process.

mrslaughan · 20/03/2019 21:24

Shamelessly placemarking - but don't believe I will ever catch up.......

WaterQuarter · 20/03/2019 21:25

petition seems to be whizzing up by 100 every 30 seconds or so.

BettySundaes · 20/03/2019 21:25

NoWordForFluffy - looks like there will be a run on Curry's when the looting starts at the end of next week.

SwedishEdith · 20/03/2019 21:26

I refused to watch it. But, never at any stage has she involved MPs in asking what Leave should look like. So how can they vote on something on which they had no input? No wonder they all detest her. She's really playing on this "I feel sorry for her" that you still sometimes get on voxpops - from people who don't go to work.

Runningintothesunset · 20/03/2019 21:27

Julia Hartley-Brewer

“Oh God. Imagine being on Theresa May’s staff. Imagine having to be there when she finished yet another pointless statement. Imagine having to say “Well, that went very well, Prime Minister. The country will be 100% behind you.” Imagine being that person.”

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 21:27

We are extraordinarily unfortunate (but it was enemy action) that Trump happened at the same time as Brexit

Clinton - or indeed any "normal" Republican President - would have slapped down any UK PM long before we got in such a mess

Trump is the first - and hopefully last - US President to want to destroy the EU.
Other presidents have always regarded it as an essential bulwark against Russia

In fact any other POTUS would probably have had a stern phone call to Cameron after the ref telling him that a narrow win in an an advisory referendum is no basis to undo 45 yeras of integration and set off disaster.

When a US President orders, a UK PM normally obeys, no matter how embarassing
As in Suez
As Thatcher would have been forced to do in the Falklands, if only Galtieri hadn't stupidly refused the US peace plan that gave him 80-90 % of what he wanted

Holidayshopping · 20/03/2019 21:28

How is appealing to the people (in such an awful awful way) by slagging off the MPs going to make the MPs want to vote for her??