Westminstenders: Neglectful Drunkeness!

[RedToothBrush]

The HoC has spend the past 3 years in a state of Neglectful Drunkeness.

As it stands less then two weeks from Brexit Day, there is no deal we were promised. The Conservative and Labour Parties are more divided than ever.

The government is in disarray as 8 Cabinet ministers plus the chief whip voted against the Prime Minister including the Brexit Secretary who had minutes earlier argued for an extension only to vote against it. He is now on the brink of resignation.

The DUP look like they may be about to capitulate and vote for a deal. But it may not be enough even then.

This is what the cliff edge looks like.

Who wants to take a closer look?

The Tories will do whatever they deem necessary to seize power.

I'd be shocked if Corbyn is pondering any such thing. He and May are as obstinate as one another. He'll hang on until he loses a GE.

Would love to be wrong though.

PMK

I would love to see Corbyn go too. It would really put the wind up the Tories.

Whenever Leadsom is in the news I remember this - where she tried to explain economics to Paul Krugman. You can see his "WTF are these people?" face here.

Things could be even worse.
Imagine if Leadsom hadn't made those gaffes back in the 2016 leadership contest ...

The Tory party membership would have chosen between May and Leadsom
and Leadsom would have been PM

Imagine the last 2 years with Leadsom as PM ...
then have a very large

If both May and Corbyn go, during a long extension,
then the politics and possibilities for Brexit change totally

Also, we could have an early GE, possibly during the extension ... and use up time again

afaik, it has to be a majority vote of the HoC at least, to cancel Standing Orders.
atm, I'm not sure if that would even pass

@red do you know more ?

Yes and Boris could become PM with Gove as defence sec.

Not a clue BCF. Have been looking. Seen nothing enlightening.

Leadsom can't but maybe she can be ordered to do so by TM? I don't know how much power loathesome has tbh.

red You should warn people who may be eating, before you post such things

red help me! Please!
Wtf is going on!!??

Apparently they have the numbers bigchoc

So maybe all to no avail? Goodness I detest the Tories.

clerc - I know you are, the cat is in the pigeons, sometimes I think I'm the only one that sees it.

I really don't mind at all, sport and art and for god sake and all, fair play to you, thanks for finally admitting it.

What are Standing orders in this context and why would she be cancelling them? Are they the other matters that were due to be discussed?

David Allen Green*@davidallengreen*
Query: does the Speaker's ruling mean that section 13(1)(b) of the Withdrawal Act cannot now be fulfilled?
t.co/ShYw6Xe1ed

If so, the Deal cannot be ratified.

Has the Speaker thereby now frustrated a statutory provision?

Grey wolf author @ greywolfauthor
The Speaker would argue that MPs frustrated that last week by voting against it

Christopher James @chrisjames_90
An interesting thought from @davidallengreen

For example, what effect would today’s ruling have on moving motions of no confidence flowing from s.2(4) of the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act?

It’s a question from a statutory provision which has already been negatived this session

Gus Paul @guspaul
irrelevant if there is a majority to overturn the precedent as Speaker said in response to PoO earlier

So are we getting into having a vote to have a vote on something they are not allowed to vote on, because they've already voted to create law which frustrates the ability to uphold another law they've voted to create?

Anyone?

red You should warn people who may be eating, before you post such things

You started it! You suggested Leadsom as PM!

Just watching bbc parliment. Human medicines regulation motion - debating whether to revoke the motion...because it's shite.

Below is an HoC doc listing when the various Standing Orders were passed or amended

That they have to be passed does sound like they have to be passed by the HoC itself
Some certainly are, e.g. the election of a new Speaker, which is classed as an amendment of a Standing Order

I gather there is a Select Committee which normally considers all proposals for changes and then decides which should be put to the HoC to vote on

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmstords/0004/sohc00044_170420.pdf

DH and I have now finally decided to go to the march after what's happened today. It's a lot of money for train tickets and hotel but we'd regret it if we didn't so we've booked this evening. Who knows, maybe if enough people go it will have an influence if nothing's decided this week....

Parliment is rather empty for it