Can someone please explain to me what just happened with the vote??

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I am beyond relieved that it means No Deal?

But can anyone explain in very simple language what the vote was about??

(the newspapers can't seem to explain it clearly enough for my teeny mind...)

No reason why they shouldn't try to recuperate their losses. That's damage limitation not some kind of exploitation.

My post referred to an extension so, let's say it's a 6/8 week extension, what on earth would their losses be that could justify a charge of £1 billion pounds a month.

The EU gains a precedent of being impossible to negotiate with if members want to leave. That's quite valuable for them considering the other member states that have been murmuring about leaving.
But, tbh I wouldn't expect any other members to manage it as badly as the UK has.

We leave with no deal, regardless, as you cannot negotiate a trade deal while still a member state of the EU. All Mrs May had was a deal to talk about a future deal! It also meant paying a shitload of money to the EU -£36 billion, while still following all their rules during a transitional period when things would remain roughly the same, their laws triumphing the UK's, us having to beg them for trade deal - unlikely as they already had our money, which is all they really want, and a made up problem called the Irish backstop, the escape from which would be controlled by the EU. Therefore we would never leave.

The EU has a eastern border too with non EU countries like Albania and Macedonia-there is no talk of an Albanian backstop, trade flows through the border with technology checks and some border checks, as it should be. The EU also had given membership status to some French dependencies and many of those border African countries which are unlikely to have the same trading standards as the EU, yet trade flows through those borders too. However, it seems the EU just has a problem with the N Ireland/Irish border even though the UK has always followed the rules and regulations and have the same standards as the EU already- as I said, a made up problem.

No deal simply means trading under World Trade tariffs which the majority of the countries of the world do anyway- shock, horror, it actually works. No cliff edge, no crashing anywhere, just stepping into freedom and that is priceless. Although there may be some casualties and disruption for a short time ( caused by the EU), most people won't notice the difference at first. Some things may cost more, others less. Prices went up significantly when we joined the Common Market in 1973 but no one said we 'crashed in'!

Buy British, wherever you can, to support our farmers and businesses. When companies like VW, French wineries and the like see the tariffs go on and people buying cheaper alternatives, they will soon put pressure on their governments to negotiate a deal with us. Liam Fox has already agreed to carry over many free trading arrangements with countries which already had one with the EU, like Switzerland, Israel and Korea. Yes, the EU would rather give a free trade deal to Korea before it sees the UK being successful as an independent country! Meanwhile suspicious packages have been found in the UK and the finger is being pointed at the IRA. As they say, with friends like these, who needs enemies!

I didn't say the referendum was enshrined in law - ffs actually read what im posting. I said the results of it was. The result being to leave the EU by March 29 was enshrined in law!!! So talking about the referendum being unbinding is a moot point now.

a made up problem called the Irish backstop
Say that again when the next bomb blasts in London.
As it is, it's not being covered in British media, but several packages were sent by the IRA to a Scottish Uni, and two stations - Waterloo and Euston I think. Only one exploded, as the other two were not opened.
The IRA claimed responsibility for this using a code that was recognised and verified.
That is what we in Ireland have come to know from history as 'sending a warning'.

www.itv.com/news/2019-03-12/ira-claims-responsibility-for-explosive-packages/

www.politico.eu/article/ira-claims-responsibility-for-5-bombs-only-4-found/

edition.cnn.com/2019/03/12/uk/explosive-devices-london-glasgow-claim-intl-gbr/index.html

A border on the island of Ireland is not the same as the Eastern border of Europe. Educate yourself woman.

And while neither you nor I may like it, there is a certain cohort of the UK, namely NI, who will not stand a border on the island or Ireland and a breach of the Good Friday agreement.
I'm no expert, but I do observe a lot. I suspect I know where the 5th package was sent.

This was a warning by them, from what I can see, that if you put a border in Ireland, all hell will break loose. On London most likely.

trade flows through the border with technology checks and some border checks

Just as well UK and Ireland haven’t signed up to any international treaties agreeing not to have any kind of border checks between them then isn’t it? Oh hang on...

And @quizqueen, while you may live in Surrey or somewhere and not have to commute into central London daily, some of us do.

I’m always staggered by the lack of knowledge about the situation with NI, it is not an ordinary border fgs!

@Amortentia
Good evening!
Am I correct in thinking these tiny explosive devices are some sort of a ploy to send a warning rather than kids playing games? I suspect the 5th package that they claim they don't know where it went, was received by the mail centre for No.10 Downing Street or Westminster or something. I watch too much Criminal Minds

I’m not sure tbh, but one turning up in Glasgow has got a lot of people baffled. Scotland has always been excluded from any NI related terrorism, as far as I can recall.

Usually the densely populated areas of England are targeted outside NI. You’d think that would make many in England worry about the threat to the Good Friday agreement 🙄.

I grew up in Ireland, so while we were never at the coal face, it was always on the news. It was also talked about among the adults which I tried to overhear But it is very typical IRA behavior from my memory to send a warning first?
I actually feel sorry for Theresa May. Her health is clearly suffering, she appears to be steering a ship to a port she didn't want to go to in the first place and she looks utterly exhausted!

From reading, the ones sent to Scotland were to people recruiting into the British Army. It's in one of links I've posted above.

I just have a sinking feeling that those little packages were warnings and that there is worse to come. Not the best of feelings to have when you work in central London!

My family are in Derry and I live in Glasgow and you’d be hard pushed to find a Glaswegian over 30 who was not aware of what was going on there. Brexit has really highlighted to me how ignorant England (people, media and mps) are of the history and the violence from both sides, especially what the British state were up to.

I can’t stand May, I think she’s a vile human but I do think she’s trying to steer control away from the absolute lunatics within her party.

I heard that and know Glasgow uni well and I couldn’t tell you were the army recruiter is based. They must have been very confident the package would have got there without getting the wrong person. Lots of conspiracy stories going about 🤔.

I actually don't know what to make of her. She voted Remain (so she claims), yet is steadfastly ploughing on to Brexit, at the expense of her own country and it appears at the expense of her own health. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I actually can't make her out at all.

I doubt she actually voted Remain, I think she just chose the side she thought would win when pressed.
I seriously think she is a massive control freak/perfectionist who either was always or has let herself become obsessed with reducing immigration since her time in the Home Office. And she believes the rest of the country, or at least the ‘proper English’ rest of the country thinks the same as her!
She won’t allow herself to fail or fail the country (in her eyes).

Ok I think I’m starting to understand what went on last night now. However I still have a few questions:
In very simple terms- what was the Malthouse amendment?
What was the final number of votes to pass the amended motion (no no deal ever)?
And now Teresa May has said she will respect this vote and put it into law even though she whipped the MPs to vote against it?
What happens now to the MPs who broke the whip?
Sorry if any of this has been answered later on, I’ve read to page 5 and know if I don’t get this down straight away I will forget what questions I had

Well one of them has resigned, the one who voted against orders. Others abstained.

My post referred to an extension so, let's say it's a 6/8 week extension, what on earth would their losses be that could justify a charge of £1 billion pounds a month

This nonsense has already cost them billions, in the same way as it has cost us billions. I suspect a billion a month will still only make a small dent in the debt.

"No deal simply means trading under World Trade tariffs which the majority of the countries of the world do anyway- shock, horror, it actually works."

No, that's not how it works.

Very few countries depend on WTO rules. Most countries have other and better agreements with their closest trading partners (geographically and economically).

MAURITANIA is the one country in the world that comes closest to using only WTO rules. Mauritania - with a GDP of only $4,714million (0.2% of the UK’s GDP). C 1 - 17% of Mauritania's population still live in slavery!

Talk about race to the bottom!

People seem to imagine that moving to trading under WTO rules would just be shifting to a different way of trading, which is of course nonsense. It is no exaggeration to say it would cause us massive financial problems for the reasons set out here.

I keep seeing Leavers proclaiming that no deal wouldn't be a problem because, hey, we can all buy British. Quite why they believe we have the capability to manufacture everything, God only knows; our manufacturing capacity has been majorly reduced over recent decades, and we simply don't have enough farmland to cover all our food needs. We can't suddenly magic up the ability to manufacture all the drugs and specialist products the NHS needs, for instance. There's also a little matter of not having cheap labour from the the EU, either, and no EU subsidies. Then as soon as products become scarce, prices will shoot up. And please don't suggest that trade deals with Switzerland, Israel and Korea are going to be our saviours.