Can someone please explain to me what just happened with the vote??

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I am beyond relieved that it means No Deal?

But can anyone explain in very simple language what the vote was about??

(the newspapers can't seem to explain it clearly enough for my teeny mind...)

I'm still confused after tonight tbh.

I'm genuinely finding it upsetting that it is so difficult to understand what is going on. And I am not a total idiot.

But so far my take out is that No Deal is not going to happen and Brexit has been delayed. And still could not happen.

Because there is no way to square a circle.

Basically on tues, Teresa mays vote will go back to parliament for a third meaningful vote.

If it is passed, she will seek an extension of three months from the Eu on thurs and Friday at the summit, to allow time for it to be passed into legislation.

If it is rejected again, she will seek an extension of likely two years from the eu on Thursday and Friday at the summit, and we will then be looking at many different options, from a whole new strategy, to leadership contests, general election, or second referendum,

So it's either three months or two years depending on what happens at next weeks meaningful vote.

The Eu will definetly grant the three month extension, it is not absolute they will for thr two years, but tusk has said he will urge it and is open to it, so it's highly likely it will be granted.

She will then amend the legislation on the 25th based on whatever is decided,

But if her agreement goes back for a vote what has changed.

If it is rejected again, she will seek an extension of likely two years from the eu on Thursday and Friday at the summit, and we will then be looking at many different options, from a whole new strategy, to leadership contests, general election, or second referendum,

Which she could Bl**dy well have done two years ago! Stupid woman. Brexit means Brexit, and I intend to make a success of it! You haven't so far, you have wasted two whole years, and wasted money and left businesses high and dry. Every bit as stupid as Cameron was.

Stealth. Nothing has changed as such, but it seems Geoffrey cox is considering adding to his legal advice saying that if the back stop at any stages threatens the good Friday agreement, then we would be able to unilaterally leave, which may give the dup the ability to vote for it. It's not a given he will but he is considering it I understand.

In addition some MPs may now prefer her deal to staying in for at least two years and risking no brexit, and now that the absolute alternative , they may change and vote for it.

I don't know if she will get it over the line, she might. But if she does not then it's a two year delay. And it's likely John Bercow will prevent it ever being presented for a fourth vote. So on Tuesday it either gets the go ahead or it's dead forever.

Tuesday really is the big decider here. We either exit in three months with a deal. Or we are in for at least two more years and brexit May ultimately not happen. I'm not sure anyone can predict it at this stage.

The motion she put to parliament tonight encompasses both options. Leave in June if a deal is agreed, or go for the longer extension if it is not

but it seems Geoffrey cox is considering adding to his legal advice saying that if the back stop at any stages threatens the good Friday agreement, then we would be able to unilaterally leave,

It sounds wholly unlikely that the backstop would affect the GFA. It's much more likely that the UK Government mucking around would affect the GFA. It could then go to an international court and the way the UK has been behaving of late wouldn't give anyone confidence that the court would agree with us.

@Bluntness100 - you have achieved an explanation that the BBC, the Guardian, the Independent, the Telegraph, the Daily Mail and indeed the Sun (because yes folks I have been reading far and wide to understand this shitshow) could not.

Many thanks

The withdrawal agreement isn't a deal - it will just be the start of negotiating properly for a deal.

I wonder whether the EU countries will agree to an extension.

It sounds wholly unlikely that the backstop would affect the GFA

Yes, it is harmless, it's just a hill to die on. However cox may give the dup a ladder to climb down. I suspect he is confirming they would climb down it before he does it. I was watching him in Parliament and I don't think he expected his advice to be taken so negatively and as it was.

Ffsffsffs, it's because they all like to give their options, and struggle with thr concept of saying this is is what it is, they like to put their own bias and spin in there, and all the noise is misleading.

Either way, we will know next week if her deal is agreed or not, and what extension the Eu will grant. Although they are making some noise, they will not wish to be responsible for the U.K. dropping out with no deal. So likely agreed.

This has been an excellent explanation, thank you for that.

The term "meaningful vote" is getting close to meaningless if all that results from one is that if May doesn't get the result she wants she'll try yet again.

Just listening to David Lidington being interviewed and he referred to the other EU 27 having to agree the WA.

Apart from the size of the bill paid by the U.K, is there much content for other countries to dispute?

Thanks Bluntness - v helpful.

I think she'll get the WA through 3rd time around :(

I thought the EU had ratified the WA

Just listening to David Lidington being interviewed and he referred to the other EU 27 having to agree the WA.
He talking cobblers
the WA is agreed
westminster just needs to approve it

There is no definite two year extension. Any extension has to be agreed by the EU27 and there HAS to be a purpose for it. And there'll be a price to pay / conditions attached to it.

It really isn't as certain as Bluntness is portraying that we won't still crash out. Crashing out is probably the most likely scenario right now.

Maybe DL was talking about the extension needing agreement, not the WA?

WA will go through because the alternative is years of squabbling & uncertainty.

I’d rather have crashed out without a deal.

Yup,
extension would need unanimous agreement
hence why Farridge was trying to get Orban to agree to block it

I'm astounded why so many people want to risk the livelihood of their fellow countrymen by advocating crashing out without a deal. It's economic suicide to even consider that course of action.

And I'm not saying all I'd like to say for fear of deletion.

What happens if Bercow rules they can't bring the agreement to another vote? There is a rule that a motion cannot be brought before the house a second time in the same sitting. Apparently, the clarifications on the WA made it different enough to allow a second vote but there are no more changes happening before the next vote.

The only option May would have then, if she doesn't wish to be deemed in contempt of parliament by allowing no deal, would be to revoke.

I think he'll allow it because of the disaster which is looming. Unprecedented times.

@NoWordForFluffy - I think he'll allow it because of the disaster which is looming.

Would the vote not be null and void if he breaks the rules?

I've not looked into it too deeply to be honest. It depends what the law says in relation to a vote taking place when it shouldn't.