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Westminstenders: Adrift at Sea

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RedToothBrush · 13/03/2019 14:35

After May lost the Meaningful Vote last night by a long way she has lost control of the agenda. She managed to persuade just 40 out of the 116 she needed to support here.

This leaves us all adrift with nothing apparent to a solution.

May announced that tonight's vote will be to stop No Deal. She has announced that it will be a free vote and she herself intends to vote against No Deal. This looks set to be blocked but the amendments that go with it are more important. Particularly the Spelman / Dromey amendment which is pitched to stop no deal completely (it doesn't) which is more about trying to kill off a Meaningful Vote III instead.

Tomorrow's vote is perhaps more important though. Its about an extension to a50. We NEED an extension. However the length of the extension is yet to be argued as is the purpose of the extension.

This is also against whispers that the Italian Far Right group has been lobbied by Leave.EU and Farage has directly asked Eurospectics in the EP to veto any extension. Whether this would happen remains to be seen but it certainly raises questions over an extension is even now possible. This was always a probable action; Banks & Farage have for 3 years aggitated to cause maximum problems for the government. Its also true that they only have power due to this dynamic of being a hostile force.

With No Deal so catastophic that Hammond today made the point in his Spring Budget that, if he feels there's almost nothing he'd feel able to do to mitigate the effects of what he sees as the car crash of no deal, this leaves one option on the table. Ironically it is possible that the actions of Banks and Co might be more likely to have that effect rather than to stop an extension. The question, however, would then be whether May had the guts to revoke.

We certainly have, at least, reached crunch point. Have we done so too late to make a difference? And will our new found sovereignity be twarted by Brexiteers inviting the interference of foriegn hostile forces to intervene?

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CordeliaEarhart · 13/03/2019 19:50

Abstaining is a fucking wimps way out. It simply should not be allowed. If you are in HoC you have a moral obligation to vote.

At least it passed!

Littlespaces · 13/03/2019 19:50

Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssss!!!!!!!!

LonelyandTiredandLow · 13/03/2019 19:51

Steven Swinford

@Steven_Swinford
Absolute fury tonight among Tory Remainers with Yvette Cooper

They spent the whole day trying to persuade her and colleagues to drop the Spelman amendment

Instead she pushed it, meaning they felt they had no choice but to abstain on no deal vote

'She's totally fucked us'

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Yamayo · 13/03/2019 19:51

Thank fuck for that.

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 13/03/2019 19:51

Lost again!

SusanWalker · 13/03/2019 19:51

Treezas about to say now vote for my deal.

EweSurname · 13/03/2019 19:51

Robert Peston
@Peston
Another huge setback for the prime minister. She loses a vote that would take no deal off table forever by 321 to 278 - and a number of ministers have abstained. Her government in total disarray

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 13/03/2019 19:51

Jess Phillips
I just watched the Prime Minister going in to vote for No Deal. I told her it was a disgrace. I hope she is gone by morning She doesn't deserve her office

Wenttoseainasieve · 13/03/2019 19:51

Yes!!

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/03/2019 19:51

Now let me be clear

MissMalice · 13/03/2019 19:51

Chaotic.
Is this one binding?

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 13/03/2019 19:52

'She's totally fucked us'

I can barely manage a shoulder shrug at that!

SusanWalker · 13/03/2019 19:52

Good for Yvette. It's time someone had the guts to stand up and be counted. There isn't time to be putting things off.

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/03/2019 19:52

Brexit is f*cked

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2019 19:53

The Remainers resigning from cabinet might be a really bad thing. Who will be the voice of reason in Cabinet now?

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DecayingOrbit · 13/03/2019 19:53

What the frig is going on?

LonelyandTiredandLow · 13/03/2019 19:53

Wonder what Hammond makes of May voting for No Deal after his speech today? Hmm

MissMalice · 13/03/2019 19:53

Agree with that RTB. Will she bring back BoJo? Will there be a cabinet job for the haunted pencil?

PestyMachtubernahme · 13/03/2019 19:54

The fragile trust if fucked.
Revoke and implement huge parliamentary reform.

Mr Speaker - tick tock time is running out for more debate

CordeliaEarhart · 13/03/2019 19:54

That bloody woman still reckons she can get her deal through.

Songsofexperience · 13/03/2019 19:54

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLL😁

SusanWalker · 13/03/2019 19:54

I love it when the SNP cheers at revoke.

Yamayo · 13/03/2019 19:54
Grin
Cloudtree · 13/03/2019 19:54

I feel sick. I can't see a good outcome here.

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/03/2019 19:55

Orderrrr! Wine

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