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Westminstenders: Adrift at Sea

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RedToothBrush · 13/03/2019 14:35

After May lost the Meaningful Vote last night by a long way she has lost control of the agenda. She managed to persuade just 40 out of the 116 she needed to support here.

This leaves us all adrift with nothing apparent to a solution.

May announced that tonight's vote will be to stop No Deal. She has announced that it will be a free vote and she herself intends to vote against No Deal. This looks set to be blocked but the amendments that go with it are more important. Particularly the Spelman / Dromey amendment which is pitched to stop no deal completely (it doesn't) which is more about trying to kill off a Meaningful Vote III instead.

Tomorrow's vote is perhaps more important though. Its about an extension to a50. We NEED an extension. However the length of the extension is yet to be argued as is the purpose of the extension.

This is also against whispers that the Italian Far Right group has been lobbied by Leave.EU and Farage has directly asked Eurospectics in the EP to veto any extension. Whether this would happen remains to be seen but it certainly raises questions over an extension is even now possible. This was always a probable action; Banks & Farage have for 3 years aggitated to cause maximum problems for the government. Its also true that they only have power due to this dynamic of being a hostile force.

With No Deal so catastophic that Hammond today made the point in his Spring Budget that, if he feels there's almost nothing he'd feel able to do to mitigate the effects of what he sees as the car crash of no deal, this leaves one option on the table. Ironically it is possible that the actions of Banks and Co might be more likely to have that effect rather than to stop an extension. The question, however, would then be whether May had the guts to revoke.

We certainly have, at least, reached crunch point. Have we done so too late to make a difference? And will our new found sovereignity be twarted by Brexiteers inviting the interference of foriegn hostile forces to intervene?

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prettybird · 13/03/2019 19:30

LewesHamilton - the lady in yellow is Alison Thewliss. She is the SNP MP for the constituency that adjoins the one I'm in. Yellow is the SNP colour, so I think it is indeed significant - but I also think that she just likes it Wink

On the other hand, Kirsty Blackman, the deputy leader of the SNP MPs, wears a lot of purple because she loves purple! Grin

Useful salmon tartan rug royalty Wink

Now need to go back and try and catch up on this afternoon's thread - having only read the last few posts given the not Spelman's No Deal Amendment being passed Confused

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 13/03/2019 19:30

Some knobber on BBC News telling Andrew Neil that No Deal is most popular option with the public. He's been all around the country apparently.

Give me strength.

Can't see him so not sure who he is.

MyNameIsArthur · 13/03/2019 19:30

I turned up late to the party so am confused by it all. I thought they were getting a free vote?!

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/03/2019 19:31

Fiddle, I think it's Tim fuckwit from Wetherspoons!

AutumnCrow · 13/03/2019 19:31

Tim Martin is on, being surprisingly dense for a man who made money out of flogging cheap beer from the continent .... And what's with his ridiculous fake American accent?

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/03/2019 19:32

Tim Martin is very pro no deal Brexit . He's an arse!

Apileofballyhoo · 13/03/2019 19:32

I thought May said last night that it would be a free vote? Did that change today?

Whisky2014 · 13/03/2019 19:33

I was in the same year at school as Kirsty Blackman. She went out with my ex after I dumped him and they were always snogging in the school corridor Grin

dreichuplands · 13/03/2019 19:33

I guessing Tim hasn't been to Scotland or NI on his round Britain tour!

Wenttoseainasieve · 13/03/2019 19:33

The free vote was only on the governments no deal vote, they were whipped to vote against the Spelman amendment

CalamityJune · 13/03/2019 19:33

Andrew Neil put him back in his box about Canada +++ i thought. Nice to see the Brexiteers being called out on their shit.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 13/03/2019 19:33

That was far less close thankfully

PestyMachtubernahme · 13/03/2019 19:34

The hive like drone whilst they are voting is memorising.

Nos have it.

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 13/03/2019 19:34

Oh God, is it Tim Spoons! The one solitary business person they can roll out to cheer for No Deal Brexit. I'll be delighted never to see or hear from that Wurzel Gummidge lookalike ever again.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/03/2019 19:34

308 to 312

Fuck, that’s too close for comfort.

MissMalice · 13/03/2019 19:35

Are they voting on it again?!

mrslaughan · 13/03/2019 19:36

I thought Theresa whipped against spellmen- if that's the case I wouldn't say 308 want no deal....

Wenttoseainasieve · 13/03/2019 19:36

. Govt planning to whip against their no deal motion because it has now been amended to rule out no deal in all circumstances. If govt whips against that ministers say they will resign

Songsofexperience · 13/03/2019 19:36

*308 to 312

Fuck, that’s too close for comfort.*

Yes but considering it was meant to fail that's pretty good!

QueenMabby · 13/03/2019 19:36

“Sky News have JRM on. Ugh.....vote 'very interesting' but not binding.”

So. Bit like the referendum result then, eh JRM??

Camomila · 13/03/2019 19:37

What's this last vote on?

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 13/03/2019 19:37

They voted to amend the motion with Spelman, then voted against Malthouse and are now voting on the full motion as amended by Spelmans motion. If that makes sense

MarshaBradyo · 13/03/2019 19:37

What was that last vote?

TalkinPaece · 13/03/2019 19:37

Watching JRM on BBC
he sounds like he's on amphetamines

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/03/2019 19:37

No, they are voting on a managed exit.

Bloody hell.