Put it to the People March 23rd March

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

www.peoples-vote.uk/march

While it's cutting things rather fine, the next People's vote is on March 23rd. It's clear the politicians have no clue. They still can't agree on what brexit should look like. Time to take it back to the people.

To people who respond to tell me things like 'we won, get over it',
I'd like to thank you in advance for bumping the thread.

Info on the following coaches can be found
Added in Winchester and Edinburgh:
www.peoples-vote.uk/march_transport
Barnsley
Birmingham
Bromsgrove
Cambridge
Cardiff
Cheltenham
Kidderminster
Ledbury
Leeds
Lincoln
Liverpool
Malvern Link
Manchester
Norwich
Nottingham
Oxford
Penzance
Redruth
Sheffield
Shrewsbury
St Austell
St Blazey
Stockport
Swindon
Truro
Wirral
Worcester
Winchester

We've also found:

Edinburgh: (thanks @Chuffingnora)
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2362658943788845&id=552222038165887

Somerset: (thanks @KennDodd )
www.tickettailor.com/events/somersetloveseurope/239226?fbclid=IwAR3GsVyLHUL9Oyti6bS3ur1-9KD5M6GAfJUns4xA8FBMdL0ZV15Fu4VNHLQ

Devon: (thanks @KennDodd)
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/coaches-to-london-saturday-230319-put-it-to-the-people-march-tickets-56895949316?utm-medium=discovery&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&aff=esfb&utm-source=fb&utm-term=listing&fbclid=IwAR1YmXEbRT6fZ0_4kEPh8WYBhRfNEqX9Tkrq5b1g7IYBmpqbmxr1PCA45KE

Penrith/Kendal/Lancaster Preston:
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/coach-penrithkendallancaster-preston-to-pv-march-london-23rd-march-tickets-56829229756

Poole, Bournemouth, Ringwood, Southampton:
www.tickettailor.com/events/dorsetforeurope/238421/

Glasgow Loves EU are currently looking at options. PM them on their FB page if interested. (Thanks @NuffingChora )

Bristol and Bath. there is a very cool Train service: (thanks @twofingerstoeverything )
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/bristol-and-bath-for-europe-train-to-london-march-tickets-57096658643?fbclid=IwAR3h4C3IN-y5zjI2ZN4EJ6RLhODpMEirFuE7Mms1XJuxbSinTKPxmK5SSFs

For people who don't have a coach or Hogwarts express and can't afford the train fare you can apply for your ticket to be paid for: getmetothemarch.co.uk/

BonnesVacances
Yes, there are several coaches going from Southampton
I'm still working out where I'll pick mine up
but I talk how I type, so you'll spot me
(toothbrush behind my ear)

Me and DH will be there. Never been on a march before, but feel this is hugely necessary.

If the politicians don't know what brexit should look like what makes you think the voters would know.
If you want another referendum to try and get the answer that suits you would all decisions in the future be rerun to keep the losers happy.
If a rerun went 52/48 the other way would you allow ANOTHER go.
On what basis would the percentage be either way to win, 51/49, 66/33.
Please do tell.

Vicky1990
I am not in favour of a second vote
as the first one was not legally binding
but I strongly believe that our "elected representatives" need to realise that half the country is incredibly angry, and will stay that way

First vote was
an illegally funded,
non binding,
ill informed (zero information)
shower of shit
which will take us down into a plughole of madness.

I've got tickets for the Bristol train. Now just need to come up with a sign!

If a rerun went 52/48 the other way would you allow ANOTHER go.

Farage had declared that if it had gone that way it would be unfinished business. So if the Leavers were happy to go along with that I don't see why we Remainers shouldn't continue to press for another vote.

Although I am going on the march, I am not convinced that a vote is the best course of action. If we get as big a turnout or better than last time, it might just show the politicians that the 48% haven't gone away and it's now time to listen to our viewpoint too. Not just attempt to listen to get a deal through as May tried, but genuinely listen and find common ground to tackle the country's problems. Which will take more skill than the current sorry crowd of most of our politicians have.

Thank you for bumping the thread Vicky. The more people that see the transport arrangements the better.

Well done BIWI :)

Brighton have decided to put in a coach rather than the rail replacement bus service. Phew!

Though DH informs me it's MILs birthday Going to try and sort some compromise out

Thanks Camomila. That's a bit of a nuisance re timing for you!
I'll add the coach service in later.

@Vicky1990

If the politicians don't know what brexit should look like what makes you think the voters would know.

And this is exactly why there should be a second vote. Because we were all asked to vote on something that no-one had any idea about - what it would be, how it would work, what the implications for us would be.

The second vote should be something we're asked to vote on with the proper information about the deal and its impact on the UK.

Stupid phrases like 'the will of the people' are truly, absolutely and wholly meaningless. 'The people' didn't know what they were voting for - and neither did any of the politicians.

I don't really want a second vote. I want the politicians to be straight with the electorate and to tell them it can't be done without causing more damage than its worth.

And then I want them to find the money to fix the NHS and other ills because its my belief that this is what people voted for.

I live In Scotland I hope there's a march somewhere up here

I've not seen anything yet SSD, it might be that they are trying to encourage as many people to the London one as possible because it's the big numbers that get through the BBC reporting barrier, but I do understand that for many in Scotland it might as well be held in Paris for all of its accessibility. If I see anything I'll post and I'm sure others will do so too.

In the mean time, if it's cost that is the issue, the link I posted to up thread will refund up to £100 for train tickets. (I do hope that doesn't get abused)

There are lots of threads for debating the People's vote. Shall we try and keep this one for helping people to get to the march?

I don't really want a second vote. I want the politicians to be straight with the electorate and to tell them it can't be done without causing more damage than its worth.

I agree. However, I went on the last march and will go on this one because it seems like the only way to make my views on Brexit known.

ssd - I've been looking and it doesn't look like there will be . I see that there is now a bus going from Edinburgh (£30, travelling down over night) and the "Glasgow loves EU" Facebook group is looking for crowdfunding from those that can't go down to London to support those that can.

I'll be there, Darling. It was wonderful being part of it in October, even though I did't get close to Parliament Square! I feel it will encourage the MPs who don't want Brexit to have faith.

Nobody has yet explained how another vote would be decided as the remoaners don't want to accept the traditional way of deciding votes, I'e the majority wins.
We have had a people's vote and the majority voted to leave the EU, what way would a rerun be decided, best of three, toss of a coin, turn of a card ?.
So what would another be deciding, and what are the rules of the vote?.

Please read the op.

So you don't think we should have General or Local Elections Vicky? These are our traditional ways of doing democracy, although Leavers seem to be unaware of this. After all Labour got a landslide in 1945. Shouldn't that be good enough for us all?

Nobody has yet explained how another vote would be decided as the remoaners don't want to accept the traditional way of deciding votes, I'e the majority wins.
And nobody has yet explained how Brexit will benefit the UK, especially its poorer citizens. In fact, the government is now planning a hardship fund "to offset rises in the cost of living, protection for parts of the country “geographically vulnerable” to food shortages and sourcing alternative food for schools, prisons and hospitals." So, what exactly have the majority 'won' in this instance?
You voted for the unknown, along with millions of other people. Now we are better informed, it makes sense to have a second vote asking whether the public supports May's deal or would now prefer to remain. Anything else would be undemocratic.

Vicky 1990 It's really very simple. We have a PV on whether the electorate want the Withdrawal Agreement (it's not a deal) which gives us a transition period following EU rules without a voice in the EU and gives us no clear idea of what future relationship we might have. Negotiations on a trade deal to take place during that transition period. OR whether the electorate would rather remain on our current Germany+ deal (SM, CU but also opt outs rebates, voice at the top table, elected representatives and our veto.)

People;s vote - W.A vs remain.

If we vote for W.A we leave on those terms. If we vote remain - we remain.

Even if we ignore all the shady illegalities and foreign money behind the last campaign - the fact is that vote gave us a direction (leave) but it didn't tell us what that looked like. An anology I've heard used was we can vote to drive North from Sheffield - great - but we haven't actually decided on whether we will end up in Leeds or John O'Groats.

The W.A is how we leave - which was never voted on - and a PV is just giving the electorate a chance to agree what is on offer. If we don't like it (because tbf it is rubbish) then accepting it is not the will of the people. But everyone who voted leave is just as able to vote in a new vote - and if the same number want the W.A as wanted the promises on the shiny red bus then they will still win. No need to worry.

Thanks for starting this thread OYBBK - it's a really lovely, positive thread of people actually doing something. I've already got my train ticket and planned my placard.

You're welcome Icantreachthepretzels :)

I do get slightly puzzled as to why people crash on to threads which are clearly about taking peaceful, positive action in an attempt to try and persuade us not to go. It's almost as if they don't believe in the democratic right to demonstrate our own feelings. But anyhoo.

For those aiming to get the train, what time are you aiming to get to your London station? I'll probably be going in via Victoria, it's about 30 minute walk to the far end of Park Lane. We will need lots of time to queue for toilets at the station I reckon, plus time to grab a coffee.