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Westminstenders: Oh Look is that a fire in the Italian Capital?

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RedToothBrush · 14/02/2019 21:20

Next stop: 27th Feb.

Where we will apparently have Cooper-Boles II which apparently will pass but still assumes that
a) the EU will grant us an extension despite our fuckwittery
b) that it will prevent accidental no deal, which it doesn't
c) glosses over the minor point that the only way to 100% prevent no deal is to say you'll revoke if everything else fails

Meanwhile in reality we leave in law on 29th March, despite the rest of the law having zero chance of being ready in time. Withdrawal Agreement and No Deal alike.

All that is actually happening is the Tories and Labour fighting amongst themselves. Corbyn is still pretending that Brexit isn't really that important and hoping it will just go away. May is still trying to compromise with the ERG - whom if you paying attention 18 months ago were obviously were never going to compromise on anything - cos they are fuckwitted swivel eyed loons.

Meanwhile the entire country has no other alternative but to assume no deal and act accordingly.

A deal on the 21st March (as is the planned date of the Meaningful Vote) is simply too late for planners. For them no deal has already happened even if it does never come to pass.

The strategy of brinkmanship has destroyed us. We just don't know it yet.

A Split in the Tory and Labour parties may well make matters even worse going forward with further political polarisation.

Where next for Brexit?

Who knows and does it even matter now? The damage is irreversible and will take at least a generation to heal wounds. Economically it may never be recoverable.

FUKD.

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1tisILeClerc · 16/02/2019 18:32

Littlespaces
'Say it with turnips' doesn't quite cut it in my book!

67chevvyimpala · 16/02/2019 18:32

She is a twat. Her working practices are...questionable to say the least 🤬

So that's a no.

But I like the other admin lady and I get on very well with the district councillors.

1tisILeClerc · 16/02/2019 18:41

67chevvyimpala
I was mainly meaning cultivate 'influence' as far up as you can manage without compromising your aims.
For many it is just a game so you need to be strategic.

yolofish · 16/02/2019 18:41

Having ventured into my local village FB page on a discussion about immigrants (we are reasonably close to Dover) there is absolutely no fucking way I would put my name forward for anything... these people are quite mad. Nuclear subs in the channel to dissuade illegals anyone?! I am afraid I am keeping my head down...

BigChocFrenzy · 16/02/2019 18:50

“Enough of this shite”

I'll vote for born !

TalkinPeece · 16/02/2019 18:51

I might just go along and watch the parish clerk panic
In many cases the clerks loathe councillors as much as you all do

If it is Parish you are thinking of, getting 'in' with the clerk is a good move if possible.
The person who writes the minutes defines the history

and if you become a Parish Councillor in May
by November you could be bending the minister's ear at the NALC national conference
go for it

BigChocFrenzy · 16/02/2019 18:54

I wonder how this will go down in the NI local elections: Hmm

New law sneaked through Parliament to allow security forces to stop and search any person or vehicle near the border region, also to detain them

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/3/schedule/3/enacted

1tisILeClerc · 16/02/2019 18:55

Being a parish Councillor can enable you to be a rep on other things too and sometimes those higher meetings have an allowance for biscuits and even coffee! (instant of course).

TalkinPeece · 16/02/2019 18:56

yolofish
There are some good people at parish level in Kent
and if you stand for district then your name and manifesto go to every home in the area
go for it

BigChocFrenzy · 16/02/2019 18:56

Spitting Image used to call Scotland the "testbed"

If No Deal happens, I think we'll find NI was:
All the tactics used by British security forces during the troubles to keep down civilians

67chevvyimpala · 16/02/2019 19:01

I can be strategic.

But I loathe the woman.

I hide it well :)

I've heard through the grapevine that 2 councillors are stepping down and knew has resigned...

DGRossetti · 16/02/2019 19:04

New law sneaked through Parliament to allow security forces to stop and search any person or vehicle near the border region, also to detain them

So how does that work for an RoI citizen then ? And how does it square with the GFA ? Or is it a trojan law intended to provoke a dust up in the ECJ ?

TalkinPeece · 16/02/2019 19:05

LeClerc
Yup, NALC = London hotels and restaurants and shortcuts to decision makers
all without actually having to be elected ;-)

1tisILeClerc · 16/02/2019 19:10

Bit revealing but I was parish 'rep' for the flooding committee who had meetings at the NFU offices with custard creams and nice coffee!

DGRossetti · 16/02/2019 19:10

FlyBMI just gone under:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47267901

British regional airline Flybmi has cancelled all its flights and filed for administration, the airline has announced.

The company said it had been badly affected by spikes in fuel and carbon costs and uncertainty over Brexit.

The East Midlands-based airline operates 17 planes flying to 25 European cities.

Affected passengers have been told to contact their travel agents or insurance and credit card companies.

1tisILeClerc · 16/02/2019 19:19

{India's fastest train has broken down on its first trip, a day after it was inaugurated by Prime Minister Modi.}

Was Grayling in charge?

BigChocFrenzy · 16/02/2019 19:20

DG That law doesn't specify nationality, so British, Irish or any other citizens can now be stopped and searched near the border, vehicles as well.
The detaining is worrying too.

If the security forces actually use that law, I'd expect riots - or worse

Could also be a template for copy & paste law applying to the mainland

btw, now I've worked out how soon May could dissolve Parliament until after Brexit, may I up my estimate of No Deal risk to 90% ?

BigChocFrenzy · 16/02/2019 19:24

The problem with trying to strike down such laws, because of the GFA,
is that it never considered that the Uk might go apeshit
so there is a lot it didn't specifically instruct the govt not to do

BigChocFrenzy · 16/02/2019 19:25

leclerc 😂 So India is developing its own Grayling ....

Tanith · 16/02/2019 19:27

Isn't a GE one of the reasons that the EU said they'd consider for granting an extension?

Also, as late as last month, Donald Tusk was saying Revoke was still an option.

67chevvyimpala · 16/02/2019 19:29

Sad news about flyBMI

Lucygoeswalkies · 16/02/2019 19:31

Lurking.

Lucygoeswalkies · 16/02/2019 19:35

I saw JRM on QT the other night. I was shouting at the television ‘What was the death rate in Glasgow at the time?; and how was that ok anyway?!’. Utter disbelief that no one picked him up on it. Odious twat.

GD12 · 16/02/2019 19:35

Waiting for the leave FlyBMI excuses.

borntobequiet · 16/02/2019 19:36

Instant coffee!?.
Insulated mug!