Westministenders: A Special Place in Hell

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A quick start to a new thread (as I've not been paying attention this evening!).

May is looking to ditch the Malthouse Compromise. Cos its so rubbish.

The ERG look like they are splitting over it anyway.

Up to sixty Labour MPs could back the WA.

Half the ERG plus Labour Leave Rebels could be enough to get the WA over the line.

Donald Tusk, makes controversial comment by more or less stating the obvious.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3492426-Westministenders-Abbreviation
Guide to Brexit Abbreviations and Terms

LouiseCollins Real nit-picking there
I've read "lost their lives" in official statements from the MOD

Sure as hell isn't showing sympathy for the rioters, calling them "violent thugs" and saying how the ordinary people were hiding away from them, not supportive.

Re your other criticism of an MP:

Sarah Champion MP for Rotherham faced massive criticism from the Labour Party

and she was forced to resign from the Shadow Cabinet after Labour Party anger over hes article in the Sun, describing very bluntly how white girlswere being raped and exploited by British Pakistani men

• another example of how Labour go after MPs who call them out for scandals

Yes, she first tried to get police and social services to act, but they were all covering up the scandal caused by their ideology and incompetence, strong links to the local Labour Party.

So, since going public has become a target from some Labour loyalists and lost her Shadow Cabinet job.

Note:
just because Corbyn's Labour cabal demonise an MP, doesn't mean the MP hasn't done the right thing^
Look at the original reasons, not any made up ones afterwards.

at least I didn't give the country a referendum, without any thought to the consequences.

The indignation at Tusk pointing that out is hilarious. Injured pride!

I think that whatever the polls say, the Conservatives will be hammered in the local elections (if held).

Very interesting Any Questions from N Ireland. DUP spokeswoman getting little applause from audience on most of her contributions )and it’s in a Unionist area), questioner from audience suggesting that voters avoid both DUP and Sinn Fein in future getting lots of support.

Delaying elections would seriously alarm me - and international public opinion too, at least in the EU, Canada etc

However, I doubt if the govt can delay local elections or GEs without at least the acquiescence of Labour

The Emergency Powers, if invoked, must be renewed by Parliament every 30 days.

Corbyn is always pushing for a GE; so I doubt if he would consent to delaying his chance to shine at the locals.....
unless of course polls showed he was going to lose seats ......
in which case why would the Tories want to delay them

A bit off topic, but Venezuela, Russia, populism, the EU

Russia - and Corbyn - support the brutal hard left Nicholas Maduro as President, condemned by nearly all the West

So do some other populists in Europe, illustrating again how rightwing and leftwing populism^ - often relaballed fascists & communists - are increasingly finding issues to unite on.^

Last Monday EU foreign ministers were due to agree a common position on Venezuela,
in which all the EU states would refuse to recognise Nicholas Maduro as President of the South American country,
and instead recognising the speaker of Congress, Juan Guaido, as the legitimate ruler until there are fresh elections.

Under EU rules, unanimity is required.
But Italy’s populist government would not agree.
So then the individual EU countries could only separately condemn Maduro, much less weight than the EU together^
^
Why is Russia defending Nicolas Maduro‘s claim to the presidency in Venezuela despite international pushback?

https://globalnews.ca/news/4930480/maduro-venezuela-putin-russia/

the South American country owes the Kremlin a lot of money and oil, experts say.

Maduro is also an important ally for Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has built his reputation at home on his ability to project Russia’s power into parts of the world where the Soviet Union once held sway.

< But why is Corbyn supporting the brutal Maduro ? 🤔 >

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Is it me or is it really quiet round here today?

I'm spending the day cleaning and baking and trying not to think about Brexit.

It's not working.

Dh and I have had another chat about money/plans etc

It seems surreal. Just surreal.

Just musing that if elections were put off by May (or AN Other leader of the Conservative Party), then the UK wouldn't be allowed to re join the EU, because they will only accept functioning democracies.

Ironically, it was/is one of the reasons why Turkey is unlikely to join any time in the near future whatever Farage might have claimed

I love the idea of a special place in Hull that a pp mentioned.

From now on I too am going to remind myself that I am still more competent than Chris Grayling

This will become my mantra from now on.

Be a bit less Chris Grayling and be a bit more Helen McEntee should be a thing.

Had a nice walk in the fresh air
raised a few eyebrows in Waitrose by joking with DH whether we should stockpile rice noodles
now drinking tea

The May elections will happen no matter what as that cycle is independent of Westminster.
I am not at all sure about it being a Tory bloodbath
because it will also be an anti Corbyn bloodbath
and also an anti Libdem/Green "woke" bloodbath
it may just result in an incredibly low turnout
or a sky high one

it will make the "purdah" period in April rather entertaining
as councillors will not be able to overrule "unelected officials"

so the month when Brexit impacts, politicians will be unable to act
tee hee hee

Forget Canada +, let's have Germany +.

They should lose that last line because it;s remainery treason and just float that idea as a genuine model for brexit and let all the leavers clamour for it.

Then ... give it to them. Signed, sealed and delivered on the 30th of March as promised.

Police Scotland sets up Brexit emergency planning centre

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/08/police-scotland-sets-up-brexit-emergency-planning-centre

Apparently the BBC have a remainer register.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/mandrake-on-the-remain-campaigners-dropped-last-minute-by-bbc-1-5881776

Brexit brings 42 foreign firms and 2,000 jobs to the Netherlands

Good news for some, from Brexit
Partly compensates for the No Deal costs of €2.3 bn the Netherlands faces over the next 2 years

• for extra Customs staff, infrastructure and replacing UK contributions to the EU budget

www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/02/brexit-brings-42-foreign-firms-and-2000-jobs-to-the-netherlands/

Brexit led 42 companies to set up in business in the Netherlands last year, accounting for nearly 2,000 jobs, the Dutch foreign investment agency NFIA said on Saturday.

The total includes the 900 jobs which will be generated in Amsterdam by the European Medicine Agency, whose shift from London was announced in November 2017.

That year, 18 companies made Brexit-related moves to the Netherlands.

Last month the NFIA confirmed to DutchNews.nl that some 250 businesses from all over the world have contacted the organisation to discuss starting a Dutch operation because of Brexit, meaning more firms could still make the switch

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/bonnie-greer-by-picking-a-fight-with-ireland-the-uk-is-making-a-foe-in-the-usa-1-5882692

You get nowhere in America if you do not understand that Ireland is in the warp and weft of the Republic.
It is the other story from that of the Pilgrim Fathers.

And what this means is that if Ireland is seen to be disrespected by the UK over Brexit, all bets are off.
.....
A great number of the supporters of Trump have Irish ancestry;
.....
But if the Irish are seen as being shafted during Brexit, those pails may be metaphorically rattling at cocktail fundraisers again.
Not for Noraid, which helped the IRA, but for a campaign to reject anything that the UK may want. Including a trade agreement.

There is something profoundly stupid about the way Brexit is proceeding, in relation to Ireland.
Britain’s ‘finest hour’ mentality will come up against something much stronger in the USA.

When it comes to the UK – which is generally referred to as ‘England’ – deep down inside, just about everyone in America is Irish.
In short, don’t be perceived to be disrespecting Ireland.

You get nowhere in America if you do not understand that Ireland is in the warp and weft of the Republic.

I still can see Trump turning around and dissing the UK as being pretty useless to the Uk after Brexit with the (half true) logic that if TM had taken his advice, it would have been sorted, but she didn't so it's a waste of time. His supporters would lap it up rather than remember he was all for it to start with. Can't be any less lunatic that the sight of 3 successive Brexit secretaries dissing their own deal.

Not much sympathy for the farmers - given a huge % of them lobbied leave. Yes the we're probably used , but they need to as a block become very vocal about wanting to remain - and I am not seeing that.

Meanwhile - in the darker recesses of the BBC, Man Like Mobeen is back for a second series. This is the BBC we know and love ...

Here's the second episode which appears to be trolling Brexiteers. It's only 20 minutes, but enjoy with a nice glass of , or .

As an adopted Brummie, it's close to my heart ....

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06yrtw1/man-like-mobeen-series-2-2-wrestling-with-the-nhs

Oh! Thats good news...I loved the 1st series 😁

Someone asked upthread about Philip May’s influence and how that affects his ‘business dealings’. Mr May is a client director at a fund management company - he doesn’t directly manage money and is unlikely to have ‘business dealings’ as such.