Westministenders: A Special Place in Hell

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A quick start to a new thread (as I've not been paying attention this evening!).

May is looking to ditch the Malthouse Compromise. Cos its so rubbish.

The ERG look like they are splitting over it anyway.

Up to sixty Labour MPs could back the WA.

Half the ERG plus Labour Leave Rebels could be enough to get the WA over the line.

Donald Tusk, makes controversial comment by more or less stating the obvious.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3492426-Westministenders-Abbreviation
Guide to Brexit Abbreviations and Terms

A photo that truly deserves a caption competition

Email from Corbyn. He would do better to stop recycling his speech as it comes across rather dull and uninspiring to me:

I have written to the Prime Minister laying out Labour's alternative plan so we can move beyond the mess the Tories have made of Brexit.

The Tory failure has left the country deeply divided and facing the threat of a disastrous No Deal outcome. Labour can and must take a lead in bringing our country together.

We are convinced that our sensible alternative, set out in the five demands in my letter, could both win the support of parliament and bring together those who voted Leave and Remain.

More than any other party, Labour represents the hopes and ambitions of millions of people across all parts of our country.

Whether people live in Tottenham or Mansfield, they face the same problems of austerity, the injustice of Universal Credit and insecure work. The real divide in our country is not between Leave and Remain, but between the many and the few.

I believe our alternative plan – which includes a permanent customs union, staying close to the single market, and full guarantees on workers' rights, consumer standards and environmental protections – can help move us beyond divisions over Brexit and lay the ground for the transformation of our country that only a Labour government can deliver.

Theresa May is unable to reach a sensible deal because it would split the Tories – and we will never vote for a bad Tory deal.

If Parliament is deadlocked, then the best outcome would be a general election. Without it, we will keep all options on the table, as agreed in our party conference motion, including the option of a public vote.

Thank you,

Jeremy Corbyn
Leader of the Labour Party

Potential for jobs to be available for humans at ocado after their robots get fried.

Sam Coates Times @samcoatestimes
A government source messages:

“No one calls it the Malthouse Compromise anymore. It’s the Meatloaf Compromise. Bat out of hell.”

(British politics 2019 ladies and gentlemen)

Theresa May is unable to reach a sensible deal because it would split the Tories – and we will never vote for a bad Tory deal.

Although we might split too and some of my lot might support it. I just forgot to mention this in my letter

Lots of love

Jez

Rafael Behr @ rafaelbehr
Hard to see Corbyn ever walking through a Brexit aye lobby with May. But getting easier to see Lab MPs, with tacit approval from leader, getting a deal over the line. Permission, but no fingerprints.

{PM: I've told Donald Tusk his language was not helpful and caused dismay.}

And verily Donald was quaking in his boots, or probably not.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-cannot-paper-over-its-cracks-for-much-longer-rq0gbdvcl
Labour cannot paper over its cracks for much longer
philip collins

Both parties have been ruptured by Brexit but the opposition’s internal contradictions make its split look imminent

Just saw Keir Starmer on the ITV news
he looks utterly exhausted and drained

More project after...

Since when did we need parliament anyway. We've taken back control

No one i know was dismayed by Tusks comments, no-one gives a stuff, TM needs to stop thinking the DM is the nations pulse.

JC will never back a PV, they'll always be one more step before a PV.....

Talkin As it’s a RORO facility, I believe it’s planned to use Portsmouth to ease the pressure on Dover in the event of no deal?

And the distance between the freight check-in desk at Portsmouth and the beginning of the M275 is just 13 lorry lengths, so a queue of 14 lorries or more would mean queuing traffic on the motorway.

Continuity
Yup, nice Mr Grayling thinks that adding to the traffic jams on the M275 and around the Whiteley cul-de-sac is a good move.
That plan is why he's no longer welcome in Calais

oh dear I lack backbone according to the frothers in my village FB group. Saddened and weakened by that I will just have to go to bed and hope we all can fight another day (or is it 55 now?)

But getting easier to see Lab MPs, with tacit approval from leader, getting a deal over the line. Permission, but no fingerprints

See that pisses me off. Luciana Berger is facing a vote of no confidence. Corbyn must know that any MPs who vote with the Tories will possibly face, albeit for different reasons, a vonc. Yet he's happy for them to take the flak to get the brexit he wants, without him having to get his hands dirty.

So Project After is Stage 1 of Singapore-on-Thames - cutting corporation tax?

I’ve only lived down here since last autumn (yes, I am the crazy person who moved to Kent just months before Brexit 🙄) and haven’t yet made it to Dymchurch/Hythe.

🤔Maybe I should do that in the next 50 days, whilst there are still roads I can drive on...

I’m really disappointed the frothy mouths on my old school friend’s Facebook post have ignored my deliberately provocative comment. I had lots of follow ups planned. I flatter myself that it’s because last week I took one of them on and dismantled all his arguments. I think they’re scared of me. Nobody is real life has ever been scared of me.

I’m thinking I should name change to BuffytheBrexiteerSlayer 😂😂

Derxa Wishing to make use of the expertise of EU technocrats is not fawning:

It is a pragmatic realisation that the incompetence & ignorance that runs through both of the 2 main UK parties is so bad that they are incapable of fulfilling the basic functions we require of them.

Hence we require alternatives and we have identified suitable ones.

A few decades ago, the obvious alternatives would be in the US, but their 2 main parties have also gone down the talent toilet

Derxa UK politicians don't need the EU to find lucrative jobs during and after their political careers.

MPs have always had lucrative directorships, sometimes conflicting with their duties in time or motivation

Part of the reason for the large chunk of Tories embracing no Deal is their financial interests in companies that would make large profits from this.
Prominant Brexiters have also been given huge salaries for a few hours per month work as directors.

Once leaving formal politics, the highly lucrative lecture circuit beckons PMs, cabinet ministers and any politician who manages to get on the TV with a lot of mindless soundbites

Cameron, probably the worst PM in the last 200 years, is coining it on the lecture circuit atm
He will probably alsp earn well from his book which should be entitled
"How an arrogant fool fucked up his country for a generation"

I've written loads of posts that are being eaten by MN for some reason.

Basically, Portsmouth, bananas. Sigh.

Katy Haywardd@hayward*_katy

Hans Maessen, favoured customs guru of the ERG & IEA,on @BBCRadio4:

Cannot point to a border btn 2 customs & regulatory jurisdictions anywhere in the world
where there is no physical infrastructure at all.
"There's always been customs infrastructure".
,,,,
They claim it has already been trialled...
in Africa, to ‘ward off bandits & hijackers’,
ie if the lorry goes off route or doesn’t arrive at destination, they know there’s a prob.

Can't tell what lorry contains, if freight has been switched, if correct duty has been paid…

Cameron, probably the worst PM in the last 200 years, is coining it on the lecture circuit

Wish someone with enough money and time would follow him round and show up at every event to ask embarrassing questions.

Corbyn must know that any MPs who vote with the Tories will possibly face, albeit for different reasons, a vonc. Yet he's happy for them to take the flak to get the brexit he wants, without him having to get his hands dirty.

This must be that straight talking, honest politics we've all been told about.

Luciana Berger's CLP have motion on 17 Feb to deselect her:

Chuka Umunnaa@ChukaUmunna*

Utterly appalling in every way.
@lucianaberger is one of the finest and hardest working MPs in the @HouseofCommons
That she should be treated in this way is shameful.
.......
Anna Soubry MP@Anna_Soubry
Read & understand that this is what @jeremycorbyn^ & his supporters are doing to @UKLabour^
Please join me in sending solidarity & respect to @lucianaberger

< Soubry would feel particular sympathy, since her local Tory party are discussing deselecting her >
.....

Board of Deputies of British Jewss@BoardofDeputies*

Sending every good vibe to @lucianabergerr^tonight.
Trolled, maligned and racially abused by the people who represent the worst in our society, while she remains a beacon to many in our community and our country.
#WeStandWithLuciana

Julie Ward MEP@julie4nw

Read my article in @timesredbox^ about Whitehall's best-kept secret:^
The #Brexit workstreams that tell us just how ready the UK is prepared to leave the EU, but the government refuse to publish the analysis.

@UKParliament^ must demand they be published.^

We are being kept in the dark about Whitehall’s preparations for Brexit

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-are-being-kept-in-the-dark-about-whitehall-s-preparations-for-brexit-87shtp5fm

Most people in Westminster and Brussels know that Theresa May is in denial about the government needing more time to deal with Brexit.

But the lack of detail on how prepared the government is for 29 March is Whitehall’s best kept secret.