Is this the start of the civil war?

[Backwoodsgirl]

Looking through these threads we have lots of scared people prepping for the ever increasingly likely No Deal scenario. There is a lot anger, towards remainers and anger towards the government, who quite honestly I wouldn’t trust to look after a cannon ball.

As things disintegrate over the coming days, Are we actually watching the start of the next civil war? I admit without weapons and the depressed nature of British people it will be a crap civil war but non the less violence will happen.

There was a civil war in Northern Ireland (part of Britain) for decades. Doesn't that count?

Course not. Cos it was far away, eh?

Most people in England have no idea, and have forgotten about it.

And most Brexiters have no idea how the shit will hit the fan with Brexit.

There is so much polarity now in England, it is scary.

Anna Soubri (sp?) being openly called and heckled as a Nazi outside Parliament? WTF!

1745 Scotland got a bit uppity. Was that not a civil war?

Hadrian's Wall - built to repel the Scots.

And could be put back into use if the SNP have their way.

ILoveMaxiBondi

Surely you're not so naive to believe that a person in England is equally affected by the troubles as a person in Northern Ireland?

And I do remember the bombings, i remember my catholic school being evacuated in bomb drills where the non-religious school next door didnt have them.

But I thank my stars I didnt live in Ireland during that time, because my experience of civil war didnt come close to that.

Surely you're not so naive to believe that a person in England is equally affected by the troubles as a person in Northern Ireland?

you’ll have to quote where I said anything even close to that. Because I haven’t. At all.

I was responding to your point - "Oh I forgot, it only counts when it affects England"

As a general prepper, a Remain voter and indeed person who started a Brexit prepping thread, can I respectfully ask you to calm down a bit.
In my view, Theresa May is backing the headbangers into a corner where they have to accept WA if they want to Leave.
The success of the non-binding Spelman amendment shows no appetite in Parliament for No Deal.
The E.U. will not move in the backstop although it might rejig it with exactly the same effect - protect Ireland and Ireland's commitment to GFA.

LeClerk a punch up in a bear factory! Love it 😁. I’ll have to remember that one.
Better stock up on crumpets for the freezer.

And the bloke who runs wetherspoons said all the scaremongering is all lies anyway, so im claiming free burgers from him if my shopping budget cant stretch

On here is the only place people seem apocalyptically worried about it. And most seem more worried that we might be without fruit and veg for a few days (what the supermarkets mean is that there free ride of extremely cheap goods they can still profit on whilst driving others out of business may be over), rather than the very real threat of tensions escalating again in Northern Ireland; at a guess as they think that won’t particularly affect them. Europe has no interest in making trade etc hard as they make a lot of money exporting goods which undermine the price we can produce them here, so I am sure after some initial turbulence things will be resolved. I voted remain btw and think it’s not of any benefit to leave, but find it interesting that people seem to assume it’s just politicians with no idea making decisions and purposefully trying to put things in place detrimental to the country, when there are huge teams involved. A negotiation is also just that, not a list of demands but a hand off in which case both parties win and lose some- the EU don’t want others to follow suit so are going to play hardball until the end to make the process less appealing.

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Forgive me if feeding my family good healthy food of my choice (budget allowing) constitutes an unreasonable request.

On here is the only place people seem apocalyptically worried about it.

I was just coming onto say people IRL don't seem concerned at all. A bit of moaning that it's not been sorted but people I know are booking holidays and buying houses as if nothing will change.

(Meanwhile I'm stockpiling. People I know IRL may not be worried, but I am.)

Brexit is unlikely to result in a civil war.

More and more Austerity on the other hand...

Anyone with any sense doesn't tell anyone they are prepping.

belinisurge Agreed!

Anyone with any sense doesn't tell anyone they are prepping.

True. My parents and sister know I am, but if the shit hits the fan they wouldn't be able to travel several hundred miles to see me anyway (and I told them to try and get them to do the same, which they now are).

Still I think people who are booking holidays and buying houses must think there is almost no risk at all.

I think there will be riots. I said this to my friend and they thought I was daft, but the 2011 (I think it was) London riots sparked over less.
It doesn’t take much for violent people to swing things to their advantage and I think this has the potential to kick off over the summer.

Thinking bad things will never happen is what keeps people going. Consequently they are often unprepared for when they do. Half of Mumsnet threads would disappear if people considered the possibility that their new man might be no good/the boiler making a funny noise might mean it’s about to break down/sending that text while drunk might not be a good idea etc etc.

It is barely twenty years since the last civil war in the UK. But as others have stated, it doesn't seem to count because it wasn't England.

But I thank my stars I didnt live in Ireland during that time, because my experience of civil war didnt come close to that.

I grew up in Ireland during the Troubles. It was a wonderful childhood, hardly touched at all by the civil war a hundred miles north.

My husband's childhood however was a different story. He grew up in NI. During the Troubles. UK. Not Ireland.

The fact that it is a part of the UK, filled with British citizens, that is facing renewed civil war seems, somehow, still, to be lost to so many.

I don't think that your average Brit is going to riot. I think the poor and vulnerable seem to be worn down and reisned to it all after years of austerity. I think the newly hungry will be fucking furious, tutting away, while they busily try and keep their own particular family afloat.

Can’t imagine the British fighting a civil war. They just don’t seem the type
We were more the type that went round invading countries with inferior technology, guns v spears. Now every country has guns, probably better than ours, maybe it's time to start one amongst ourselves?

I was responding to your point - "Oh I forgot, it only counts when it affects England"

You seem to have misunderstood this comment. It doesn’t mean it only counts if England feels it exactly the same as NI. It means exactly what it says. Like always, NI unrest is dismissed as nothing at all to do with the U.K.