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I am thinking EU should lift their backstop demand (Irish MNers?)

299 replies

YeOldeTrout · 29/01/2019 08:04

Bear with me, I'm a rabid pro-EU person & Remainer, actually.

But if UK leaves on 'No Deal' we're going to have hard border in Ireland from 29/30 March 2019, anyway. If EU allows removal of backstop, there's (how ever long) transition period of UK abiding by GFA and no hard border, until end 2020 or end 2021 maybe. GFA may be screwed over after that given the parlous talents of UK to negotiate with EU, but at least there's a few extra yrs of peace and stability in Ireland first.

I know it's not EU policy to be like children 'kick the can down the road', but it's the lesser of evils, if removing Backstop demand could get WA approved by UK Parliament now.

EU will only lift Backstop if Ireland agrees. Would Ireland prefer hard-border. Is EU too proud? EU should only do this with mega-plans about supporting Ireland in threatened legal action of GFA violated at end of transition period.

Thoughts from Irish (including Norn) MNers?

OP posts:
Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 03:23

Spingflight you're a typical common or garden angry brexiter, living an inadequate life, railing against Varadkar, when you should be examining your own country's failings.

Wishing you all the best.

Spinflight · 03/02/2019 03:27

No graceless insults from me...

Was genuinely concerned about the problems Ireland will face.

Though am now reassured that nationalistic tendencies will bear the brunt.

shrugs

Concerned no longer. Though still without malice.

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 03:29

Run along, you creepy little brexiter. Your hard-on for nationalism brings me out in a rash.

Spinflight · 03/02/2019 03:38

Seems my perfectly legitimate comparison of the Ukraine has rather upset someone.

Bummer.

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 03:43

You carry on, trying to put Ireland in its place. Because you're so enraged that little old 'Eire' is in a position of power over your darling Brexitannia.

Bummer.

Spinflight · 03/02/2019 03:54

Clearly one of us is enraged and confused.

Lol

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 03:56

Clearly.

Britain.

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 03:59

Well I know who's confused anyway!

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:00

Yeah?

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:02

WA?

ERG?

Or are you still confused as to what they stand for?

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:04

Eire is a derogatory term for Ireland btw. Can I just put that out there.

In English language, the country is Ireland. In Irish language (Gaeilge not Gaelic as that Sky News presenter refers to it), it is Éireann.

Northern Ireland (NI) is not Ireland. Ireland is not southern Ireland. Ireland is Ireland. NI is in the UK. Ireland is not. The 'troubles' were not in Ireland. They were in the UK.

Clear as mud? Cool

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:06

Given that this is MN, I'm presuming WA stands for Womens Aid and not Working Agreement.

Can never tell on here....

TM probably should call WA though. If she was a poster here. The boys are bullying her.

Spinflight · 03/02/2019 04:10

"Eire is a derogatory term for Ireland btw. Can I just put that out there."

Bwahahaha..

Either you are completely and utterly wrong.. Just putting this out there...

Or..

You need to change your constitution.

ROFL!!!

www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Historical_Information/The_Constitution/Constitution_of_Ireland_Aug_2012_.pdf

"ARTICLE 4
The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English
language, Ireland."

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:15

Numptie.

If you're going to refer to Ireland as Eire then you should refer to France as La France and Spain as España.

Do try and be consistent.

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:16

'The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland."'

DUH.

And as you're speaking English?

Spinflight · 03/02/2019 04:16

My sides are aching....

Thank you LadyandGent.

Haven't laughed so much in ages.

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:17

It's the tuiseal guineadeach innit

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:18

BUNREACHT NA hÉIREANN

It's confusing to people who haven't done Leaving Cert Irish.

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:18

Is amadán é.

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:20

The noun is Éire, but when you're talking about it, it's Éireann. It is never anywhere Eire.

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:21

óinseach! Grin

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:22

The only non-Irish people who refer to 'Eire' are English football commentators from the 90s.

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:22

An bhfuil siad í no é?

LadyandGent · 03/02/2019 04:23

And Kay Burley. Where we speak Gaelic. No Kay, we speak Irish.

Scandaloso · 03/02/2019 04:23

Ceapaim is fear é