The Brexit Cupboard Part 2

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Following on from the fantastic thread of the weekend, I thought we'd continue discussing our brexit cupboards and boxes here. Here's to all the preppers and their cupboards, no matter what they contain. (Keep quiet about your stash in real life).

Love the dictionary, Elements. My au pairs are in pickling solution. That'll keep them fresh.

@AutumnCrow , it's a tricky one.
My DD's best friend has a very scatty and high maintenance leave voting mum. My mil tries to help her. I try to create opportunities for my dd and her dd to socialise. For reasons I won't go into, this is not easy.
I know that it will help my DD's peace of mind to help her if she asks. That is worth a lot to me.
I have one particular adult leave voting nephew who I love dearly. I would help him if he turned up on my door.
I live in a big Leave area. My "plan " is to only help people who can be useful to us at our discretion. This can be practical help or peace of mind type help.
Weirdly my MIL is a bit of a hippy baby boomer who went through this when she was younger and is putting her head in the sand about it now. She voted Remain but hates thinking bad thoughts about anyone. I have told dh I am preparing a small "care bag" for her and FIL. They can use it as a starter or as is. They live about 2 miles away.

Breaking news - No-deal Brexit would mean shortages and price rises, say retailers. Bosses of Sainsbury’s, Asda, M&S, Co-op and Waitrose write letter to government.
Ha! It might be breaking news to the scoffers, but not to the 'smug'. Glad to be a smug.

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/28/no-deal-brexit-price-rises-retailers-sainsburys-asda-ms-coop

Interesting point that farmers were one of the first leave groups to get cold feet about Brexit. I believe there is an unusually high Bregret rate amongst them.

Also interesting that Gove is at Defra and appears to be one of the few Brexiteers really genuinely opposed to no deal.

If I were a farmer I'd be waking up with cold sweats on an hourly basis.

@bellinisurge I think it is indeed tricky. I've got a large brexit cupboard that would keep just me (and the cats) going for three months.

But if I add in family members who haven't themselves prepared, and who seem to have no desire to do so, that time frame drops dramatically from months to a couple of weeks if not just a few days (big family, over four generations).

It's the older ones, the unwell ones, and the ones with small DC I'd want to keep out of chaotic shops in April.

If I were a farmer I'd be waking up with cold sweats on an hourly basis

I'd be worrying about the millions of furious people who all thought "It'll be FIIIIIINEE, we'll simply switch to only locally-grown produce..." demanding an abundant selection at my farm gate. In March.

I love the term Bregret and would dearly love to know how many people are struggling with it, guess a PV would help to find out but not sure it wouldn't just make everything even worse...

On the basis that no question is a stupid question...

What could happen to delivery services? Particularly doorstep deliveries of milk but also deliveries of local meat and vegetables?

I'm assuming that the supply chain could be affected by possible fuel shortages and prices are likely to be driven up by market forces.

Is it possible that on top of the issues with a dramatic reduction in imported foodstuffs there will be locally produced goods that cannot be distributed?

The Adam Smith Institute man skyping The Food Programme from his home in Portugal had disdain for farmers. He was all for tariff-free and if Brit farmers couldn't compete with that, well, tough - they'd just have to go out of business.
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00026hb

A bit like Patrick Minford not caring about manufacturing (such as we have left in the country).

What could happen to delivery services? Particularly doorstep deliveries of milk but also deliveries of local meat and vegetables?

They will stop as soon as the first delivery driver is intimidated and 'persuaded' to let his assailants have the groceries.

There are already areas of the big towns and cities where the delivery companies, the pizza and takeaway companies refuse to deliver.

@TheWoollybacksWife , fuel problems seem the most likely factor that would affect local deliveries. I'd speak to your delivery person's office. Or them if they look like they have the time.

Thank you both for your answers and particularly @bellinisurge for your practical information.

I have no doubt that if food isn't being delivered to the supermarket then it won't be getting to the fast food outlets either. If fuel supplies are affected then dairy farmers may not even get their milk collected. It just utterly terrifying to contemplate how many people may have their livelihood turned upside down by this.

My DC and DH indulge me about my Armageddon cupboard but we have snow forecast this week and I'm happy that I have a bit of a buffer.

What could happen to delivery services Particularly doorstep deliveries of milk but also deliveries of local meat and vegetables?

I'm assuming that the supply chain could be affected by possible fuel shortages and prices are likely to be driven up by market forces.

Depends on how far down the rabbit hole we go.

Fuel shortages make it difficult for farmers to work the land not just deliver.

So it depends on how quickly fuel issues happened and farmers could get priority.

Obviously it pushes up costs.

Local deliveries I assume would go first. So people have to collect from a farm... Which is going to cause a farmer problems.

And then there's other people turning up at said farm.

And if we get into real issues, would civil Contingencies kick in? Would the government prevent farmers selling direct to the public? How would this be enforced? Cos the farmer has to still work the land - its worthless without their skills and knowledge. They could give food away on the blackmarket. Unless we are proposing soldiers on the farm to protect it from cabbage looting and to keep an eye on the farmer and stop him profiting under the table.

In other words, yeah it'd be 'fun'...

I’m jumping in now. We’ve been getting some things now and again and storing but due to illness and laziness our stores have been depleted of late and need to be built up again. We have very limited freezer space so the first job this week is to get rid of anything in the freezer that won’t be used and replace with useful stuff and then it’s list time. I want to get the stores back up over the next 2-3 weeks.

I've been slowly filling my cupboards for the last month and I commend all the regulars on here giving practical advice and keeping their cool in the face of so much stupidity.
Today's supermarket run of frosties, which were on offer, long life milk, yeast, bread flour and nandos bags things was a bit weird but hey ho!
I did notice the flour section and long life milk sections were a bit bare but will no doubt be filled shortly.
Was tempted to buy extra eggs to freeze after asking about dairy supplies but need to sort the freezer first so will leave that for a few weeks yet.
Also any advice on which vitamins I should maybe have? Never felt the need for them before but can't be bad to have them just incase. Two late primary DC and two adults. Will multi vitamins be OK?

first job this week is to get rid of anything in the freezer that won’t be used and replace with useful stuff and then it’s list time

I've been using up all the random stuff for the past couple of weeks to make space for more useful things. Last night I had a pack of party sized duck spring rolls that had disappeared into the bottom of the chest freezer and a squashed magnum!

We have a couple of brexit cupboards and are practising 'forward purchasing'.
I can't help wonder about food supplies for hospitals, prisons, schools and care homes.

Also any advice on which vitamins I should maybe have? Never felt the need for them before but can't be bad to have them just incase. Two late primary DC and two adults. Will multi vitamins be OK?

We have multivitamins and cod liver oil tablets. I also have a few tubes of soluble vitamin C tablets.

I was quite curious whether a new thread would stay in AIBU or whether mn would evict it to Brexit.

We're going to France at half term to stock up on essentials such as wine. What else would be worth bringing back?

I was quite curious whether a new thread would stay in AIBU or whether mn would evict it to Brexit.

Being evicted to Brexit might not be a bad thing. Most people will still see it in active and the GFs who believe in unicorns and have therefore blocked the Brexit topic won't come on and annoy us.

Hi. I read the first 'cupboard' thread with interest but didn't comment. I'm like the opposite of that op. I've got a 'Brexit cupboard'. Only me and dd (10) know about it. Dp is an ardent leaver, I'm a Remainer, we weren't together at the time of the vote its the only thing we disagree on, so try not to talk about the b word.

I do the majority of the shopping and there's a carasol cupboard in my kitchen that I never used to keep food in because it's a bit damp. I used to use it for storing spare jars, kids craft stuff, things like that. So no one ever looks in it. I've been gradually filling it with tins, over the last couple of months. It's not very organised, but I've got all stuff I'd use anyway, tinned veg, beans, sardines, tuna, soups, Bombay potatoes, couple of fray bentos pies (don't usually have them but would eat them), corned beef, instant mash.

Started getting a few extra recently of condiments, cat food, detergent, cleaning sprays. Uht milk. I've started another box in the spare bedroom with pasta, rice, ready pasta meal packets, noodles, biscuits, snacks. A few loo roll from a multi pack. Making sure I've always got a few extra of toiletries, toothpaste, soap etc in store in the bathroom cupboard. I've got a 9 mth old so bought a couple of packs of nappies in current size and a couple next size up. Aldi's and Asda are both running baby events at the moment. Bought and stashed some cheap baby wipes in Asda. Got calpol and basic painkillers.

No one is on any life saving medication but dp occasionally uses asthma inhalers, I've got some spare ones in the cupboard that were my dad's when he passed away. I take regular ant-acid medication on prescription but already built up a stash as they give me more than I require anyway, I've just been ordering my prescription as soon as eligible instead of waiting until I run out.

Just realised I've done quite a bit! I know dp would think it panicking (I even heard him saying to a friend there's no need to stockpile as it will 'all be fine). If it is fine, I will use everything anyway and he won't notice. If we need it, I'm sure he'll be glad . He's a builder so got all the tools we need and can repair most things.

Just thought, must get some more candles, matches/lighters and a torch. And disinfectant. Plus make sure battery pack for phone is charged. I stocked up on household items before having dd so I wouldn't have to go out. So it's a habit I'm trying to get into. I've been struck down ill before and it would be useful for times like that. It also makes me feel a bit better as I suffer from anxiety.

I don’t have anything nearly as exciting as that in mine @Cloudtree. Bloody wish I did!

Just thought to put some of those Coleman’s packet mixes on the list. Maybe some of those curry kits.