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To be completely cheesed off. More F-ing brexit chaos

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Theworldisfullofgs · 25/01/2019 22:45

The European Medical Agency left their London offices today to relocate to Amsterdam.
900 jobs. Lost our leading role in evaluating medicines.

No clear pathway forward.

What they should of written on that bus

Step forward into chaos, we have no idea and we're just telling you what you want to hear: Vote Leave.

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Buteo · 28/01/2019 07:25

Quietrebel

The EU employee UK tax exemption is on the gov.uk website:

Working for the European Union (EU)
Your salary and pension payments made by an EU institution are exempt from UK tax. Your EU employer will deduct EU ‘Community tax’ on salaries, wages and pensions.

Maryjoyce

EU (it hasn’t been the EEC since 1993) employees are not on a “tax free” deal - they pay EU community tax, which is generally less than UK national income tax rates for average earners but for high earners is broadly similar, and the amount is deducted from the UK budget contributions to EU projects.

lonelyplanetmum · 28/01/2019 07:26

Staff at Institutional employers like the EBA and EMA did pay tax here I believe?

Anyway what's more important is the numbers of other businesses leaving and consequential loss of tax revenues.

If you read this list you can only weep...

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTIPx0lI6pb-3Tn-3D6uNJNyKcCd-A8uPMxViagyJAR9T87ZmnSdAEPCzp5ljlNYoUNdxJiJqQdBm7b/pubhtml

To be completely cheesed off. More F-ing brexit chaos
To be completely cheesed off. More F-ing brexit chaos
To be completely cheesed off. More F-ing brexit chaos
bellinisurge · 28/01/2019 07:28

@LadyKalila , hope you are getting out "for tax reasons ", because if we No Deal, we are fucked. And it will take a loooooonng time for British fabulousness to make us great again. 50 years, I think, Rees-Mogg said. Luckily his money is out of the UK too.

Maryjoyce · 28/01/2019 07:36

Couldn’t tell you the exact amount of people as I’ve no idea how many EEC departments and agency’s there are throughout the EEC
But from the top the MEPs pay no uk income tax nor do they pay any tax in any other EEC country they pay a community tax that basically goes back Into the EEC funds however the last increase they voted for thereselves covered this tax nicely.
This is reciprocated throughout all the EEC departments and any jobs that are directly EEC employed
A MEP gets £86,700 a year plus expenses that run to often more than that again.

bellinisurge · 28/01/2019 07:38

Yes @Maryjoyce . And this is why we have to No Deal? While you're at it have a look at the Queen, the House of Lords and the Supreme Court judges.

StoorieHoose · 28/01/2019 07:40

“Britain will be great again”

Bloody hell. It was never that great in the first place! And it certainly won’t be that great with No deal

Maryjoyce · 28/01/2019 07:46

Per month €8484. Pre tax. €6611 after tax. No where close to a related tax to any other In this kind of earning

Parker231 · 28/01/2019 07:49

@LadyKalilla - how’s do you think Britain is going to become great again post Brexit?

Maryjoyce · 28/01/2019 07:50

We have no deal because they spent all there time not wanting to get a deal simply put because they don’t want to cut off the golden goose to there own earnings.
You can't expect to have got any sensible deal implemented by those that voted to stay and it was those that voted to stay that have been so called trying to get a deal.
How can anyone implement and agree on a deal if they don’t really want to do so.

Buteo · 28/01/2019 07:51

Maryjoyce

Always best to include the whole picture, no?

The monthly pre-tax salary of MEPs is €8,484 which is the equivalent of an annual gross salary of €101,808 (since July 2016). The cost is met from the European Parliament’s budget and is subject to an EU tax and accident insurance contribution, after which the monthly salary is €6,611.

UK MEPs also pay National Insurance contributions under the UK system and the difference between EU and national tax, so the total amount of tax is as for an equivalent UK salary.

Maryjoyce · 28/01/2019 07:52

Shouldn’t think it was ever great was it.
Unless you class ruling half the world and robbing half the world of everything been great

lonelyplanetmum · 28/01/2019 07:53

As for technology, in some ways we were better off without mobiles eg, st least people spoke to one another, walked without looking down st their phone etc.

Well we should have had a referendum on banning mobiles then.

At least then we could have kept a lucrative trading deal. A deal which gave us unrestricted access to a market on our doorstep worth $18.8 trillion of 500 million consumers.

Maryjoyce · 28/01/2019 07:54

Where did you dream up the last bit or is that just your own little addition

Buteo · 28/01/2019 07:57

If that comment was to me Maryjoyce then it’s here:

www.jeanlambertmep.org.uk/about-the-european-parliament/mep-pay-and-expenses/

TooTrueToBeGood · 28/01/2019 08:05

the UK can be great again after Brexit like it was pre the EU.

The UK was pretty much on its uppers from the end of WWII until the 80s. Surely leavers don't think we're going to rebuild the empire?

Maryjoyce · 28/01/2019 08:08

intresting reading

Bungleinthejungle · 28/01/2019 08:15

I'm not going up north from a place with a 62% remainder majority to live in a majority Brexiteer location. Wales and Cornwall are surely better ideas to move them to as they're Brexiteers. They can negotiate all their sparkling new deals with all these countries that are clamouring to trade with them (!).

While we just get on with living with our immigrants down here that we're delighted with as they staff our hospitals, care for our old people, drive our taxi services, provide legal services, pay lots of taxes, run businesses, own great restaurants, teach in our schools and universities. God knows what would happen if all the European doctors left the London hospitals as we're haemorrhaging newly qualified UK doctors to Australia and US.

I DO have sympathy with people who voted Brexit because they feel disenfranchised in this country because they have no jobs and no future. But it's successive Governments that are to blame, not the EU and leaving the EU will just make things worse because whole companies will leave and move to the mainland.

borntobequiet · 28/01/2019 08:23

I'm sure Nigel Farage wanted us to leave the EU so he could not pay no tax on his huge (and in his case, unearned and undeserved) salary. Or something.

Bungleinthejungle · 28/01/2019 08:28

Oh and the irony that people who are struggling financially think Jacob Rees Mogg, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and their ilk will do anything for them is so laughable. They will do what suits them and their political class, so jobs will be hived out to cheaper parts of the world as they've been doing for decades.

bellinisurge · 28/01/2019 08:29

It is a Leaver mantra to blame politicians for spoiling their beautiful dream. I know who to blame and it doesn't exclude leave voters.

jasjas1973 · 28/01/2019 08:58

You can't expect to have got any sensible deal implemented by those that voted to stay and it was those that voted to stay that have been so called trying to get a deal

Why as a leaver do you want a deal with the hated EU ? surely the whole point of brexit is to go it alone, to be great again? needing a deal just in order to keep functioning as a 1st world state suggests leaving is a bad idea.

All 3 of our brexit secretaries and at least 1/2 the cabinet are or have been brexitiers, indeed Mays zeal to deliver brexit (at any cost) brings into question how she voted.

It is Mays red lines, GFA & lack of a tory majority that has made getting any deal v difficult.

LadyKalila · 28/01/2019 09:06

Borntobequiet I'm sure Nigel Farage wanted us to leave the EU so he could not pay no tax on his huge (and in his case, unearned and undeserved) salary. Or something.*

Don't be daft, he will not have a job out of the EU !*

LadyKalila · 28/01/2019 09:07

Lonelyplanetmum talking twaddle - referendum on mobiles 🤣🤣🤣🤣

BorisBogtrotter · 28/01/2019 09:08

EU employees pay tax in their country of origin not the country they are in.

However the EMA is an EU agency and they are not directly employed by the EU, so paid tax here.

borntobequiet · 28/01/2019 09:15

We should have had a referendum just on Nigel Farage.
Q: Do you want to be represented in the EU Parliament by a lazy, xenophobic borderline criminal barfly?

Y

N