To be completely cheesed off. More F-ing brexit chaos

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The European Medical Agency left their London offices today to relocate to Amsterdam.
900 jobs. Lost our leading role in evaluating medicines.

No clear pathway forward.

What they should of written on that bus

Step forward into chaos, we have no idea and we're just telling you what you want to hear: Vote Leave.

larry It's like you're having an imaginary argument with yourself

European Medicines Agency. Regulates medicines used in E.U.
can hardly be in a non- EU country like UK. Especially one that No Deals. Where ....Every Single International Arrangement becomes invalid.

What it does:
www.ema.europa.eu/en/about-us/what-we-do
Budget summaries in this doc:
www.ema.europa.eu/documents/annual-report/annexes-2017-annual-report-european-medicines-agency_en.pdf
The EMA is an EU agency and as such needs to be headquartered in an EU country, as one would expect:
www.ema.europa.eu/en/about-us/united-kingdoms-withdrawal-european-union-brexit

What's the EMA?

And then, just as one poster is tilting at posh-selfish-elites-hoarding-au-pairs apparently being the ones bundling all opponents as "thick and/or ill educated" we get questions like this, which I suppose is at least pertinent to the thread OP.

It will all be fine.

It will be tough at first, but if we believe in ourselves and pull together - we can regain our sovereignty and it will all be fabulous.

Like many people, I'll only be able to pull together if my essential meds make it through...

It will be tough at first, but if we believe in ourselves and pull together - we can regain our sovereignty and it will all be fabulous

Bingo?

borntobequiet - thanks for that, I've had a good look at the info and although I've only skimmed through the budget document I've had a good look at the other info and it seems like a really useful organisation to have in the uk.

I must admit, if that organisation had been in my town I probably would have voted remain too. But it wasn't in my town, there's just austerity and deprivation in my town.

TheElements,

Nope, I am clearly elucidating the unclear thinking of some on here.

And now you call someone thick for not knowing an obscure EU medicine regulatory body that employs all of 900 people.Do you know every EU agency (maybe you shouldn’t answer that as the scary thing is that you probably do!)?

And you still have not addressed my question as to why you think so many voted leave? Regardless of a good or bad reason, it was not random. And it really wasn’t just the bus.

@larrygrylls , answered your question. People voted leave because they thought it a risk worth taking. People voted Remain because they didn't think it was a risk worth taking.
People voted leave thinking it couldn't get worse. They were wrong. Wronger than wrong .

Everybody, I don't know why larry is pursuing me around this thread. I'm not that good-looking, honest

As I'm not as clever as they are, and unable to understand their apparently extremely clear thinking, I'll answer their question by saying "Whatever you tell me is the correct answer, boss, because you'll say I mean whatever you say I mean, anyway."

@TheElementsSong is doing a fantastic job keeping us all cheerful. Thank you @TheElementsSong .

@larrygrylls

You decry the big corporations, state they are at least in part responsible for Brexit but omit that be it JLR, Nissan Airbus etc these workers are well paid and skilled jobs.
Where as many a Wetherspoon employee will be on zhc, limited rights, easily dismissed, min pension etc etc.

Pensioners have seen incomes, in real terms, increase BUT on the whole voted Leave!

17m voted leave, for 17m different reasons, some will be the left behind but ime many are well off and voted out because of immigration (even though it doesn't affect them in anyway) or more commonly because we are British and don't need foreigners telling us what to do...... we won 2 WW's etc etc etc e.g Mark Francois types.

How about the pp who appears to have voted leave because of Austerity and deprivation... all the EUs fault NOT.

EMA workers regardless of relocation etc a; have lost their jobs in London and b; won't be paying tax or spending salaries in UK, we also lose a big say in how medicines are regulated in Europe, though we will be bound by the regs!

NotSuchA that’s a shame about your town. I work in a town that is classed as one of the most deprived in the UK (though it’s improved recently) so I have an idea of what it’s like (and I live in a place where rural poverty is an issue). However I don’t think leaving the EU will make things better for such places. Successive governments of our own have chosen to do things that have made people’s lives worse, not better. I think Brexit will be bad for all of us, and worst for the least well off - the only good thing that might come about is that it could blow a hole in our political system and usher in a government that would focus on improving things.

And by that, I mean a government that is dissociated from the current ragbag of parties, all of which are manifestly unfit for purpose. As is the electoral system.

It's bizarre. Can't have another referendum because it'll cause division and unrest. Meanwhile there's talk of martial law after Brexit to quell unrest.

Our very own catch 22 here in the U.K.

I genuinely fear a PV that has No Deal as an option.

To be fair, I saw on another thread a poster saying that the only tinned meat that appealed to them was pâté.

That was me! And I stand by it. Happy to leave the spam and tinned meatballs to the rest of you. Kind soul that I am.

Wasn't aware pâté was considered a food of the elite though.

Maybe if I'd integrated more into UK society by giving spam a chance Brexit wouldn't have happened in the first place...

@bellinisurge if No deal is an option on the PV ballot paper then the leave vote will be split because the goons have no unifying vision of leave much less any strategic plan.

larry It's like you're having an imaginary argument with yourself confused

Well, Larry has certainly failed to engage with or counter your questions as to how your hoarding of caviar is pushing up the price of bread.

Maybe there is an undue impact on the price of blinis?

I rather like corned beef.

Not planning to evily and selfishly hoard the delight that is spam though .

Nope @Cobblersandhogwash , I wouldn't want to risk it. Not after the catastrophe of the last referendum.

jasjas1973
EU-employees are exempted from national income tax.

Wasn't aware pâté was considered a food of the elite though
Tinned pâté is - you obviously didn't receive had a posh hamper for Christmas

I am curious as to what solution most here want, given where we are and why. I see the options as:

1/ Ask to stay in the EU, no referendum.

2/ Have another referendum. There are a few versions of this, none of them any more a ‘people’s’ referendum than the first one.

3/ Get behind a compromise leave deal similar to May’s.

An option is not unhaving the last referendum as Einstein elegantly proved the impossibility of travelling backwards in time.