Westminstenders: Plan B is Plan A again.

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The voting starts around 7pm and is expected to finish up between 8pm and 8.20pm.

May is expected to lose. The question is by how much.

We are then expecting an immediate motion of no confidence in the government by Labour to be put forward.

May is expected to make a speech to calm the markets and then go to Brussels for an utterly pointless visit.

The Labour No Confidence is expected tomorrow afternoon after PMQs. Its expected to fail.

We move no closer to a resolution and ever closer to no deal.

Half the Cabinet want to go into cross party talks. Half the Cabinet don't.

May is apparently insistent that Plan B is Plan A. Which is what you would expect her to tell the house to comply with Grieve IV. Which again is bollocks.

But Bercow could yet refuse to indulge it.

If Plan B is Plan A again, then what's Plan C?

Crisis with a Capital C.

The stalemate grows.

2. if she wins, she will start cross party talks with MP s from across Parliament 3. Govt would explore any ideas that come out of those talks with the EU

They should have done that in the first place! For something of this magnitude anyway, but especially after the GE leaving us with no clear majority! It should have been a negotiated cross-party debate from the beginning in the interests of the country!
I have no respect for British politics as a whole for failing to provide that. We so desperately need the EU to teach us how to work together.

I hope Tulip Siddiq is in a taxi going to hospital now.

The Labour and Indeps who voted FOR Mays amendment were Ian Austin, Kevin Barron and John Mann as well as Frank Field, Lady Hermon and Stephen Lloyd

olenna you're right, it should have been done from the start and is far too late now.

The day after the referendum I said that they should set up a cross-party commission to develop options for Brexit. I was right then, but it feels like too little, too late now

Me too. This is a total fiasco.

TM is a Team Player - not everyone takes the ball over the touchline, but she kept posession, and I think she has done a really good job. She'll pass the ball if she sees the opposition in force taking her down.

Or she could go back to #10, open the Gin, kick off her shoes and say Fuck It, that's enough, I'm off for a long walk with DH.

Either way - she gets my thumbs up. I like JC too.

What was the point of postponing the vote? It’s not like they’d have lost by fewer votes before Christmas.

Which three Labour voted Aye, does anyone know?

Tg May has to act quickly

2.5 years of this slowly driving towards the cliff edge

Now hurtling can’t bear it

Agree on sound bytes but they’ve always been haranguing from the sidelines

I dont see what she can turn around in 3 days when she's had 2.5 years to get it in place. Useless

PMK

TM is a plodder. She's not one for fast turnarounds I don't think.

How do you find out how they voted?

Cons who rebelled.

And this is a long list:
Afriyie,
Allan, Lucy
Allen, Heidi
Amess
Bacon
Baker
Baron, John
Bebb
Blackman
Blunt
Bone
Bradley
Brady
Braverman
Bridgen
Bruce
Burns
Cash
Caulfield
Chishti
Chope
Clarke
Collins
Courts
Crouch
Davies, Philip
Davis, David
Dorries
Double
Drax
Duddridge
Duncan Smith
Elphicke
Evan
Evennett
Fabricant
Fallon
Francois
Fysh

Berkow can put his boots under my bed( I can close my eyes) after all,all I want is his brain! ( and firmness!)

What happens with vote of confidence now please?

Goldsmith
Gray
Green, Chris
Greening
Grieve
Gyimah
Halfon
Hands
Harper
Hayes
Henderson
Hollobone
Holloway
Hughes
Jayawardena
Jenkin, Bernard
Jenkyns, Andrea
Johnson, Boris
Johnson, Gareth
Johnson, Joseph
Jones, David
Kawczynski
Knight
Lamont

Juncker making a statement tonight.

I'm struggling to digest. I ate all the cake. Just??? What next? Obvs no confidence debate, if she loses does she have to call a GE? Can labour and SNP plus others form an emergency gov instead?

Looks like my “managed no deal” MP voted for the WA, the slimeball weasel.

Latham
Lee
Lewer
Lewis, Julian
Liddell-Grainger
Lopez
Lord
Loughton
Mackinlay
Main
Mann, Scott
McPartland
McVey
Mercer
Metcalfe
Mills
Mitchell
Morris
Murray, Sheryll
Offord
Patel
Paterson
Penning
Pritchard
Pursglove
Quince

bigday, latest is "time will be allotted for debate on Wednesday". Presumably that will be voted on immediately afterwards, and no plans can be made until we know that outcome.

Dangermouse I'm being so dim sorry, but what happens? Everyone votes?

So what now?

Mann, Field and Hoey were the Labour Eurosceptics who voted for the WA.