Can we have a list of all the things we will be able to do once outside the E.U. that we can’t do now

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With 11 weeks to go this should be easy but it’s clear from other threads that people still think things that have nothing to do with the E.U. will change when we leave.

Can we have a list of tangible positive things that can only happen by leaving.

No deal will be hard for a few months but we’ve prepared for it.

No we haven’t, we haven’t even scratched the surface.

Last Monday the government invited 150 lorries to take part in an excercise to show how we can deal with lorry jams at Dover.

The actual number of lorries would be 6,000 so 150 was a drop in the ocean anyway, but only 89 even turned up.

It has been proven that just in time will fall over with delays exceeding 10 minutes, yet this farce of an exercise set off something like 14 minutes late.

So tell me again how we are prepared for no deal.

Well you won't have a European Healthcard so I guess you'll all be able to buy more comprehensive travel insurance. As I will have to if I go the other way, from continental Europe to the UK. What a thrill.

I’ll still be an EU citizen because I have dual nationality. Which puts me and my DC at an advantage over other UK residents because we still have freedom of movement and rights to work and study abroad.

The Miele almost sucked the carpets off the floor and made them look brand new.

I laughed out loud at this. I am going to ditch a clapped out dyson and get a new one. But, but, but, how can a German firm possibly make an efficient vacuum cleaner which complies with EU regs?

whosafraidofabigduckfart there was an episode of Frasier where Niles gave a safety talk to school kids outlining the allowable levels of contaminants in food.

Peregrina amazing how the Germans manage this so well whilst being in the EU.

John Lewis has some deals on Miele just now. I got a 10 year guarantee on mine as well (it must have expired by now though).

We've prepared for a no deal ?????
Don't be utterly ridiculous

No deal will be hard for a few months but we’ve prepared for it.

That's funny. Brexit was going to be easy. Take back control, easiest deals in history, they need us more than we need them, and so on and so forth. Anything about being hard was dismissed as Project Fear.

As for preparation, after two and a half years the Govt are only now beginning to get their arses into gear. Not helped by idiots like Raab, who discovered how much trade we did via Dover, and happily shared his new found knowledge."No shit, Sherlock" was about the most polite response we could make there. Or then there is the NI secretary Karren Bradley who didn't realise that there was a split between the Nationalist and Unionist vote, yet she is old enough to have lived through some years of the Troubles at least.

But I have thought of another, a new 50p coin, with some sort of hogwashy saying on it. Something to look forward too. I plan to donate any I get in change to charity boxes, so the charities should benefit.

The government are fartarseing around like headless chickens looking for the oven and are not prepared for anything so we'd better buckle down and hold tight because it's going to be a very rough ride

We'll be able to stop talking & hearing about it

I'm afraid we are not even prepared to drive a fake traffic jam backwards and forwards in Kent avoiding the actual problem which would be at the border.
We have chartered an untried non-ferry company that may or may not be ready.
I hope that plenty of other less Dad's Army esque stuff has been going on behind the scenes but we are not prepared.
Preppers like me have been both praised and slagged off for posts on here helping people who want to build some resilience into their food stores at home.
We are not, as a nation, prepared.

Join a very long queue to get through immigration

Threads like this always sound like remainers just want to gang up on remainers so they can feel superior. You can't really expect leavers to engage and it only adds to the polarisation.
I've said before that Leavers voted for a concept, not a set of facts and if A50 is to be revoked (please God) then concepts will be key to combat the polarisation. They can no more prove these concepts are right than remainers can prove they are wrong but they swing the vote as much as (maybe more than) facts. I see the AfD have said they want the EU to reform or they will campaign for DEXIT, if we revoked and then a big deal was made of our contribution to the reform of the EU, that would be a concept we could work with, people would feel they were in the driving seat. Obviously there are other problems to fix at home too.

gang up on leavers sorry, not remainers

{how can a German firm possibly make an efficient vacuum cleaner which complies with EU regs?}
Maybe it's a fake like 'Dieselgate'
We could end up with 'Vacuumgate'.

{I see the AfD have said they want the EU to reform or they will campaign for DEXIT, if we revoked and then a big deal was made of our contribution to the reform of the EU, that would be a concept we could work with, people would feel they were in the driving seat}
The true 'issues' behind Brexit are the same across the world really, inequality of living conditions.

But that ‘concept’ has been thoroughly dispelled megan.......by facts.

The ‘concept’ of equality and improved standards for the poorest is all well and good in theory, but there’s no answer in practice that any government is going to commit to.

They didn’t before leaving the EU and won’t afterwards.

You can’t live your life based on ‘concepts’, sadly those pesky fact things take over.

I’m of the view that the people who voted for Leave will, naturally, have a better understanding of the issues that prompted them to vote as they did, than would somebody who did not do so. The continued insistence from “remain” politicians that only they understand there “real issues” and can offer solutions baffles me (and that is a Very mild descriptor of my reaction to such comments)

But that ‘concept’ has been thoroughly dispelled megan.......by facts.

Bear what facts are you talking about? We do not yet know how things will be one year, five years after we've left. Not even the Bank of England scenario modelling said that because it didn't have any mitigating actions included and was always intended to be "worst case" and not "most likely". It only becomes fact once time has gone by.
By concept I mean for instance that they believe we will be more agile and flexible once the EU bureaucracy is gone and this will help us be more competitive.

There are "issues " and then there are policies to deal with them. Brexit was never the policy to deal with them. People should not be surprised by being repeatedly asked why it is. Nor should they be offended when its repeatedly shown that it isn't.

megan I’m talking about the ‘fact’ we can’t just carry on as we were just without the bits we don’t like.

The ‘fact’ that most of the things people have listed on here that they want to change have nothing to do with the EU.

The ‘fact’ that the stories about Brexit being the easiest deal in history and have no downside have been completely disproven.

By concept I mean for instance that they believe we will be more agile and flexible once the EU bureaucracy is gone and this will help us be more competitive.

That has to be based on facts-

• what bureaucracy?
• what will be more competive?
• why will it be more competitive?

As it is it is all just based on the misguided notion that the EU is the bad guy and we could be fabulous without them - but there’s no substance to that myth.

Sebo are better than Miele
just saying

The leavers I know didn't vote based on immigration though, and there are still people who believe that we will get trade deals relatively quickly once "unshackled". I think some still think the four freedoms can be waived to suit us - Corbyn being one of those on the Andrew Marr show this morning (not suggesting I know him). If you mean Brexit was thought to be easy, I think many would blame TM for triggering A50 without a plan and agreeing to pay upfront as the first reasons why it went so badly, but not that it should have done. Raab, Davis etc. have reasons (excuses?) as to why this should not have been the case. As far as being worse off, that's again something that people still seem very reluctant to believe because projections are not facts.

My point was about how to combat polarisation and I think the concept of "being in control" is important for that, just as the concept of "johnny foreigner pokes his nose into how we run our own country" was probably a big vote winner for leave.

I think some still think the four freedoms can be waived to suit us - Corbyn being one of those on the Andrew Marr show this morning

When you start quoting Corbyn as someone who thinks something is possible - I’m out.