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Brexit

Any Leavers here?

560 replies

HoyPolloy · 09/01/2019 16:22

Been reading all these threads on here about Brexit and just wondered if anyone voted Leave?
Fwiw, I did.
If you voted Leave what do you anticipate will happen before 29/03?

Dont be shy, I can't be the only Leaver on here!Smile

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Bearbehind · 11/01/2019 13:47

But the EU isn't what we joined, we joined a common market, something to make trade easier not to turn our country into a foreign land

So you just don’t like foreign people even if they contribute more to our economy than they cost sonly?

BorisBogtrotter · 11/01/2019 13:55

I do, and it still looks like the UK out there to me.

Of course it doesn't look like the idealised version of the UK, the land that never existed, that leavers seem to think leaving the EU will take us back to.

But there we go, another leave poster who just doesn't like foreigners.

Oh btw Non EU immigration is far larger than EU immigration, and isn't going to change afterwards.

sonlypuppyfat · 11/01/2019 13:58

I have lots of EU friends who have professional jobs, I just have no use for car washers and spud pickers

Mistigri · 11/01/2019 14:00

Have you sent in your application to pick spuds puppyfat and if not what's stopping you?

Bearbehind · 11/01/2019 14:00

I just have no use for car washers and spud pickers

Well you do if you have a car which needs washing or eat potatoes.

sonlypuppyfat · 11/01/2019 14:03

I would but I can't understand what anyone else is saying

bellinisurge · 11/01/2019 14:05

Don't you eat potatoes or veg, @sonlypuppyfat?

Bearbehind · 11/01/2019 14:08

bellini could you please stop tagging everyone in your posts, it’s really irritating to get an email every time you do so, I got 7 in row yesterday 😆

Mistigri · 11/01/2019 14:13

I would but I can't understand what anyone else is saying

Picking potatoes doesn't generally need you to understand anything.

Call yourself a patriot? You should be digging for Britain!

bellinisurge · 11/01/2019 14:19

That's me told.

1tisILeClerc · 11/01/2019 14:24

{we joined a common market, something to make trade easier not to turn our country into a foreign land}
Oh the hypocrisy, in that over the centuries practically all 'British' have come from somewhere else in waves of immigration.

1tisILeClerc · 11/01/2019 14:26

It's not who you are or where you come from, it is what you do for others that is important.

Bearbehind · 11/01/2019 14:32

That's me told.

😂

sonlypuppyfat · 11/01/2019 14:48

Last summer I went to a Bronze age mine. That had been worked by people 4000 years ago, don't give me "we're all immigrants " no we are not

1tisILeClerc · 11/01/2019 14:54

{It comes in the wake of DNA analysis of the 10,000 year-old Cheddar Man, Britain’s oldest complete human specimen.
Researchers found evidence he had “dark to black” skin, a discovery heralded by experts as another reminder that human history is characterised by migration.
Cheddar Man’s ancestors were thought to have originally migrated to Europe from the Middle East after the Ice Age.}

You were saying?

Mistigri · 11/01/2019 14:55

don't give me "we're all immigrants " no we are not

Where do you think we came from? Just curious.

ResourcefullSAHM · 11/01/2019 14:59

Whenever a country has a bad blip the first thing they do is blame it on the immigrants. Wherever I have lived it has happily tootled along until something goes wrong like an economic contraction or employment slump and immediately the immigrants (me) started getting filthy looks and bad write ups in the press.

The UK though does have immigration all wrong. I say this as someone who has been an immigrant elsewhere. I also say it as someone whose job it was to recruit skilled people from all over the world into the 2 multinationals I worked at. You couldn't just decide to go and work there. You had to go through months of strict application and you were rejected if it was thought that a local could do that job. One of the countries I worked in did not allow spouses to work at the time due to the amount of unemployed locals.

Free movement has not worked. I do not care how many people come to work here. I do not have a problem with immigration. I just think it should be controlled. In most economies the skills shortages are at the bottom end and then the very top end of the skill set. The ones in the middle are were most "locals" fall. It is those extremes that need filling with immigrants. Its not fair on Brits to compete against (and lose) to people who are not nationals here or to have their wages put under pressure. Whatever you think, society exists for the benefits of its members and they should be given priority. That is how it was everywhere else I lived.

BorisBogtrotter · 11/01/2019 15:04

Another person repeating untrue points regarding wages and jobs.

There's no point to this

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 11/01/2019 15:09

Just laughing my head off at the poster who thinks finds from a Bronze Age site prove we didn't always have immigrants. 😂😂😂

The ignorance on ghis thread knows no bounds.

I suggsst that poster looks at the work and analysis done on none fragments from the Bronze Age and before which she should find both fascinating and informative with regards to where people travelled from.

1tisILeClerc · 11/01/2019 15:09

Immigration in itself is not a problem but those coming in should be expected to conform roughly to the indigenous population (speak the local language when in public (meaning they can converse with locals when shopping etc), obey laws, pay taxes etc).
The problems really occur when the concentration in an area gets above some tipping point, and is influenced by the 'differences' of cultures.
Europeans typically have a similar culture and so can integrate relatively easily. The further afield the more difficult it can get.

DarlingNikita · 11/01/2019 15:12

ResourcefullSAHM, the UK has immigration wrong in the sense that we do not enforce the controls we are ALREADY able to as EU members; controls that other EU countries do enforce.

1tisILeClerc · 11/01/2019 15:12

Although 'recent' in some terms, the soldiers on duty on Hadrian's wall 2000 years ago came from all across Europe and the middle east.

bellinisurge · 11/01/2019 15:12

We're all immigrants. That's kind of how the Ice Age worked.

DarlingNikita · 11/01/2019 15:14

1tisILeClerc

those coming in should be expected to conform roughly to the indigenous population

'indigenous' is a rather Nigel Farage-ish word. I believe the UN view it as a problematic term.

speak the local language when in public Hang on, what? When talking to each other? Or 'just' when talking to speakers of the majority language?

All in all a weird post.

golondrina · 11/01/2019 15:19

resorceful but the argument for Brexit is that it is the people at the bottom "with nothing to lose" who have been squeezed out by FOM, the polish plumbers and all that. Not the middle classes.

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