Westministenders: Its Really Not Getting Any Better Is It?

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We are STILL on collision course for no deal.

Christmas is here, and whilst we might appreciate the respite from Brexit News, its really a luxury we can't afford.

The meaningful vote is scheduled for January.

Chaos is scheduled for shortly after.

I wish you all a happy and enjoyable Christmas.

Thank you everyone I'm trying, but you just meet an illogical wall. She's Currently suggesting (backed up by a mate) that medicines aren't a problem because we should be making our own anyway to create jobs.

We'll be a tad busy what with making all our own food and all or clothes and all.

Aggghhh .

I agree too Grinchly and the faux outrage from some MPs and commentators is pathetic. I'm so sick of it.

I know that DD complained about health care insurance when she lived in NL, but this is because as a young person in her twenties, she didn't use the health service much. Had she settled she would in due course have reaped the benefits. A bit like young Poles etc. coming here and making little use of the NHS. You would never ever know this by the way that Leavers whinge about not getting GP appointments. I usually say that you won't get a GP appointment unless foreigners come, if our local surgeries are typical. The British born GPs are getting on a bit and retiring early, and it's getting more and more difficult for them to find replacements.

Born - I'd join you except we are scheduled to visit FIL then. It would be delightful to have that excuse though!

On the basis that Corbyn muttered what he is supposed to have said, he is only half correct. The 'woman' or indeed if it was 'people' is correct. The term stupid is not however, as her/their actions are not all 'stupid' which gives it an air of levity, like letting a milk pan boil over.
She/they are on a far more sinister track deliberately damaging the UK in a huge range of ways. The fact that Corbyn and many in the Labour party are on a similar track simply makes him/them a hypocrite(s).
As a comment about SOS comments from late last nigh, the world changes and the views of the next generation will be different from ours but I see it as criminal that the UK has wound itself into a frame of mind that demonises other Europeans who on the whole have a very similar outlook to life, which is certainly different to Asian and Russian etc although of course every person in the world would like food, home and family security. Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Being in an European 'bloc' is a way to reduce the rate of change.

Fishes Brexiters may not like it, but the EU has many of the attributes of a country
Hence in informal business conversations, it is often referred to as if it were one

Home Office criticised for deleting records on death of detainee

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/20/home-office-criticised-for-deleting-records-on-death-of-detainee

A coroner has accused the Home Office of “manipulating statistics” relating to deaths in immigration detention after it emerged that some records relating to the death of a detainee had been deleted.

The Guardian and other sources reported that there were 11 deaths in immigration detention last year – an all-time high. However, at the end of last month the Home Office for the first time ever published detention death statistics as part of new “transparency data”. Officials said there had only been four deaths last year.

The charity Medical Justice, which works for health rights for people in detention, questioned this Home Office data and received a response from the Home Office on 7 December, admitting that deaths of immigration detainees held in prisons, such as Netyks’, were not included in the data.

Deborah Coles, director of the charity Inquest, which has supported Netyks’s family, condemned the Home Office’s role in the death. “Their conduct has been part of a wider pattern of denial and obfuscation,” she said.
A Medical Justice spokeswoman said: “Medical Justice has repeatedly raised concerns about the lack of prompt and accurate reporting of people who die while held under immigration powers. The lack of such reporting shows a shameful disregard for those who die while held under immigration powers.”

Fishes ^ "the inability to reload back from the continent will inflate international haulage prices by at least 50% overnight.^"

This overwhelmingly affects British businesses and consumers
far less effect on the EU side, but there will be some where they haven't removed British firms from their supply chain

EU prepping in the businesses I know consists mainly of replacing UK suppliers by E27 ones

I'm hoping if there was a move to a 'managed no deal' more Tory MPs would resign the whip. More need to start saying this publically.

Sam Coates Timess@SamCoatesTimes*

Andrea Leadsom becomes the first cabinet minister to spell out what a “managed no deal” looks like on ^ @BBCRadio44

It involves “a further deal”...

Leadsom is so dim.

... but the EU won't negotiate deals with the UK after a No Deal Brexit

at least not until the UK signs the 3 prerequisites from the WA: NI border, expats rights, exit bill

@SamCoatesTimes
Andrea Leadsom becomes the first cabinet minister to spell out what a “managed no deal” looks like on @BBCRadio4

It involves “a further deal”...

I am loving how the Royal family still keeps to German / European tradition and celebrates Christmas on Christmas Eve. Who else does this? We do.

Leadsom is so dim.

But is she stupid.( Sorry couldn't resist.)

lonelyplanetmum

@jonsnowC4
If London’s second Airport - Gatwick _ can be defeated by a couple of drones..shutting the entire place down for 12 hours+ what does it say of the UKs much vaunted defences upon which we spend so many billions?

Celeste Ng@pronounceding

@amnesty keeps asking Twitter to release its data on women and abuse.
Twitter refuses.
So Amnesty took matters into its own hands—and the results aren’t great for Twitter.

https://www.wired.com/story/-report-twitter-abuse-women/amp?

I noticed that @Motheroffourdragons .

Given Amnesy's recent history re trans rights and prostitution, that report whiffs more than a little of hypocrisy.

Adding to the joy:

Russian and Chinese hackers - to be exact, their bosses - might decide that the aftermath of a No Deal Brexit would be an amazing opportunity,
when UK systems would be already struggling to cope with situations for which they were never designed or properly tested.

I won't refuse to listen to any org that has swallowed the TRA propoganda

or I'd have to block Labour, LDems, SNP, Greens ... and Tories like lady-brains Mordaunt and Miller

So, it's just UKIP, then

Oy, where's the great UK plan ? 🤔 < drums fingers >
(SInce we're the ones who'll experience by far the most effects)

Who's lost all the fag packets it's written on ?

Ireland has also published its Brexit Contingency plans (131 pages)

https://merrionstreet.ie/MerrionStreet/en/News-Room/Releases/NoDeallBrexitContingencyyPlan.pdf