Leave voters? What's your alternative plan for the country if TM's Withdrawal Agreement doesn't get through?

[bellinisurge]

A small majority of people who voted in the referendum voted Leave. I presume they still want to Leave. How do we do that if the Withdrawal Agreement fails and Parliament has voted through an amendment which allows it to stop No Deal.
Talk me through it ...

A calculated risk with NI?

That’s pretty ironic given your bleating about security issues previously.

Any idea what that calculated risk looks like and what the consequences of misjudging it are?
No? .... thought not.

Who’s the dictator? How is that even possible with elected representatives making decisions.

Well, wait and see.

Had enough waiting and seeing. Want answers and solutions.

Assume you are too young to remember Black Wednesday.

Well you assume wrong.

I was being kind and assuming your ignorance was due to age.

Well, wait and see

Please do, reveal your logic as to how you go from a mutually agreed collaboration between countries to a dictatorship.

The EU was set up following the issues of the Second World War.....

So, please, explain your logic.

Anyway how can we wait and see when we are leaving the EU

So you may as well explain your logic.

@Weetabixandshreddies

I didn't say you can't post. Post to your hearts content.

I made a suggestion.

Don't post easily debunked and completely incorrect opinions and then say "it's not my job to sort it out" when you're proven incorrect.

Nobody asked you to sort it out.

You proclaimed to have the answers, and when confronted you folded like a rusty old deckchair.

At the very least have the decency to accept that perhaps you have something learn on the subject, and might not have been quite as correct as you thought instead of trying to deflect.

If you want to continue being publicly castigated for talking rubbish, then please by all means keep posting fallacies as much as you want.

Again, assume you are too young to remember life before GFA.

I must have dreamt bomb threats at my primary school, the Brighton bomb, witnessing the Harrods bomb, Lord Mountbatten being blown up...

Enough with the patronising.

We cannot and should not be held to ransom by terrorists. What you are saying is that we have to remain in the EU, despite 17 million people voting to leave, because of the IRA?

@Weetabixandshreddies - are you Nigel Farridge? He said stupid nonsense like that to shut down discussion.
Google UVF and DUP before you start rambling.

Don't post easily debunked and completely incorrect opinions and then say "it's not my job to sort it out" when you're proven incorrect.

They are my opinions which I am entitled to hold and to vote accordingly.

At least as reasonable as saying we can't leave the EU because of the IRA!!!!!

What you are saying is that we have to remain in the EU, despite 17 million people voting to leave, because of the IRA?

It was an advisory referendum the last time I checked.

Plus 17 millions represents less than 40% of all voting adults in the UK. So steady on there.

And anyway, still waiting for your dictatorship theory @Weetabixandshreddies

Oh and your “simple” solution to the NI problem.

Taking a ridiculous stance about not being held to ransom - well if that’s the case, why did we need the GFA 🤔🤔

Here we go ...

bellinisurge

It's not me saying that we have to solve NI border issue or face the return of the IRA.

Now who was it who said that? jasjas1973

At least as reasonable as saying we can't leave the EU because of the IRA

Who said that.

"Why weren't We The People consulted on PQRS aspect of the EU in the past? Outrageous therefore Brexit so We The People can be Heard!!!"

"OK, so what is your view on XYZ of Brexit going forward?"

"No idea, it's somebody else's problem, the lovely delicate brains of The People mustn't be bothered with grubby boring details."

@Weetabixandshreddies

Again you're deflecting. Where did I say that you had no right to your opinion?

It's your attitude that has pissed me off.

You were wrong about something, spreading total misinformation about a very important and serious situation, and responded to facts that show your opinion to be wrong by saying "it's not my job".

This is a serious situation. For you too.

You could at least take it seriously when you're presented with information that refutes your opinion.

I'm not asking you to change you mind - just take in the facts and ask yourself that if they contradict your opinion, where that leaves your opinion.

If it remains unaltered then fine. But don't reply with a petulant rant like a child. You're doing yourself a disservice.

Plus 17 millions represents less than 40% of all voting adults in the UK. So steady on there.

And turn out in a general election is? % majority for this government is? The con/lib coalition?

We all had to put up with that though didn't we?

And anyway, still waiting for your dictatorship theory**@Weetabixandshreddies*

You will gradually see the more powerful members of the EU dictating terms to the less powerful financially vulnerable members. Their powers will gradually be eroded, they will be sidelined in major decisions until one country takes power. No, I can't prove it because it's in the future. But look back at history. This is what happens.

Taking a ridiculous stance about not being held to ransom - well if that’s the case, why did we need the GFA 🤔🤔

I don't know. Judging by some opinions on here the GFA hasn't solved anything. Maybe we shouldn't have bargained with terrorists?

Jesus. Deflecting. Ignoring. It's like a bad relationship.

Here we are Believeitornot

So the whole country is held to ransom by NI and the GFA then is it? (my question)

Yes unless you want the IRA back again, killing uk citizens. (jasjas1973 answer)

We all had to put up with that though didn't we

For a few years then we had the chance to vote again

Their powers will gradually be eroded, they will be sidelined in major decisions until one country takes power

How.... that’s not possible. Members have votes.... you’re talking nonsense.

Judging by some opinions on here the GFA hasn't solved anything

Er nonsense.

Nonsense, upon nonsense, piled on nonsense.

I don’t think that’s correct. It’s about more than the IRA @Weetabixandshreddies

Surely you know about the history of NI

Anyway, all I can say is this thread continues to remind me that there is no sensible and easy solution to leave the EU and it would be arrogant and foolish to think otherwise.

jm90914
I'm a petulant child and you don't like my attitude? Are you kidding me? I've been bombarded with a million questions, insulted, called "he,she,it", told not to post on here, patronised...
You might not like how I voted. Fine. I don't like how you voted. Fine. That is democracy.

I stand by my decision.

If you don't like people being able to vote unless they fit your very specific criteria then I suggest that you campaign for that (good luck).

17 million people voted to leave. They were sending a message. Something has gone very wrong for them. Maybe politicians should have paid more attention to what they were saying.

How.... that’s not possible. Members have votes.... you’re talking nonsense.
Yes for now they do.

Just wait. Wait until a country defaults on their lian and then can't vote until they pay it back...or don't conform in some other way.