Leave voters? What's your alternative plan for the country if TM's Withdrawal Agreement doesn't get through?

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A small majority of people who voted in the referendum voted Leave. I presume they still want to Leave. How do we do that if the Withdrawal Agreement fails and Parliament has voted through an amendment which allows it to stop No Deal.
Talk me through it ...

Maybe if 'leavers' applied a bit of brainpower and wondered where the money might actually come from, and also why the governmen't didn't prioritise the NHS which it is perfectly capable of doing.

I didn't vote leave because of that. It was obviously codswallop. I didn't vote leave because of immigration.

I voted leave to retain sovereignty and I stand by that.

Breaking a promise isn’t the same as outright factual lies

Nick Clegg was naive. He had to give up as he went into a coalition with the Tories. Bit different to if the Lib Dems won outright. Surely that’s obvious.

And again, project fear. Plenty of information out there about leaving.

Why didn’t you read it.....

I voted leave to retain sovereignty and I stand by that

We have sovereignty

Being part of the EU is for mutual benefit with other countries. It’s not a dictatorship.

"I voted leave to retain sovereignty and I stand by that."
We already had it and your vote has pissed GFA against the wall?
Happy?

No ideas on NI, then? Thought not.

I've said plenty on NI, even though it isn't actually my job to sort it. Make me PM, pay me her salary and I'll sort it.

I am quite sure that between the EU, the UK and NI and Irish governments a solution can be found.

Nope. You've said nothing on NI other than "I expect other people to sort that for me".
Pretty disgusting.

Anyway.

Waiting for the solution to the NI problem.

@Weetabixandshreddies

Ok, I can see you're giving up the border discussion and trying to misdirect the conversation back to platitudes so that you can hide your considerable thrashing at the hands of the facts.

This utter gutting of your position was futile, and a bit embarrassing.

You'll pop up with a slightly different breakfast themed username, in another thread on a different day, and the cycle will continue...

But I have to say, if you personally don't want to held accountable then stop hanging around on these threads and exposing your profound ignorance about a very serious situation.

The Swiss/French border is a 'calculated risk'.
Schengen covers private cars and occupants and possible 'criminality' will be intelligence led. I believe that although there is no physical border in many places police have the powers to stop and search close to the border.
Freight in trucks is monitored and follows a different set of rules. No truck movements on Sundays is one such in Switzerland. There is also nothing like the sheer volume of trucks compared to Dover/Calais.

Being part of the EU is for mutual benefit with other countries. It’s not a dictatorship.

Right now maybe. Just wait and see what it becomes 10 years down the line.

We already had it and your vote has pissed GFA against the wall?

So the whole country is held to ransom by NI and the GFA then is it?

And if it was always such an insurmountable problem why was the referendum ever granted?

And how was Ireland able to join the EU and eurozone when the UK and NI arent? Why didn't that create a massive international incident?

"And how was Ireland able to join the EU and eurozone when the UK and NI arent? Why didn't that create a massive international incident?"

Assume you are too young to remember Black Wednesday. There was no appetite to join the Eurozone in this country. There was in Ireland. What with it being a separate sovereign nation.

"And if it was always such an insurmountable problem why was the referendum ever granted?"
Why indeed?

"So the whole country is held to ransom by NI and the GFA then is it?"
Yes. What with it bringing peace to the UK after decades of conflict. Again, assume you are too young to remember life before GFA.

I am quite sure that between the EU, the UK and NI and Irish governments a solution can be found

Well I’m quite sure there is one.
Don’t leave the EU or untangle the GFA and start again after we leave.....

The latter sounds appalling.

Being part of the EU is a mutually beneficial arrangement. And part of that means we have rules we all agree to follow.

It’s a mutual agreement.

{And how was Ireland able to join the EU and eurozone when the UK and NI arent? Why didn't that create a massive international incident?}
IIRC they joined at the same time or there was the hotly contested and deadly border.

But I have to say, if you personally don't want to held accountable then stop hanging around on these threads and exposing your profound ignorance about a very serious situation.

You mean the thread that specifically asked leave voters a question? So leave voters shouldn't actually come onto the thread to answer then? So a thread that asks leave voters a question is actually only for remain voters?

Oh right. Thanks for clearing that up.

Just one question? Who died and left you in charge of threads? It's a public forum - anyone can post I think you'll find.

Right now maybe. Just wait and see what it becomes 10 years down the line

Who’s the dictator? How is that even possible with elected representatives making decisions.

Jeez, paranoid much?

"Why weren't We The People consulted on PQRS aspect of the EU in the past? Outrageous therefore Brexit so We The People can be Heard!!!"

"OK, so what is your view on XYZ of Brexit going forward?"

"No idea, it's somebody else's problem, the lovely delicate brains of The People mustn't be bothered with grubby boring details."

So a thread that asks leave voters a question is actually only for remain voters?

No - the question is for you - but you can't answer it!?

And how was Ireland able to join the EU and eurozone when the UK and NI arent? Why didn't that create a massive international incident?

??? The UK is in the EU and being part of the euro isn’t necessary?

What are you on about.

Happy for you to keep posting @Weetabixandshreddies . If you can't be bothered actually answering questions or providing suggested solutions that stand up to scrutiny, you are just confirming a lot of prejudices about Leaver ignorance. And I hoped you wouldn't. Ho hum.

Seems like 800 years of British troublemaking in parts of the world, Ireland specifically now, is biting it on the bum.

And if it was always such an insurmountable problem why was the referendum ever granted

Because of people like you who thought it was straight forward.

No truck movements on Sundays is one such in Switzerland.

You also can't flush your toilet after 10pm or mow the lawn on Sundays.

Adopt a calculated risk with the NI/Irish border.

So the whole country is held to ransom by NI and the GFA then is it?

Yes unless you want the IRA back again, killing uk citizens.

Its an very important issue, that you treat it disdain gives you no credit at all.