Leave voters? What's your alternative plan for the country if TM's Withdrawal Agreement doesn't get through?

[bellinisurge]

A small majority of people who voted in the referendum voted Leave. I presume they still want to Leave. How do we do that if the Withdrawal Agreement fails and Parliament has voted through an amendment which allows it to stop No Deal.
Talk me through it ...

You need to take some responsibility for learning about your own MEP and what the EU is about.

Again, blaming someone else.
I do know and of course I blame the MEPs - I am not there am I? I vote for an MEP but someone else got in. How am I responsible?

I am somewhat responsible if the representative that I voted for got in, or if I didn't vote but how am I to blame if the person that I voted for didn't get elected?

By that reasoning, you are to blame for Brexit.

Studiously ignoring the request to solve the NI issue @Weetabixandshreddies . Saying "it's not complicated " rather betrays your ignorance.

But it is politicians making it difficult. There is no reason why a solution can't be found - they just do not have the will to do it.

But it won't continue like that.
Slowly, little by little, control of all of those things will be centralised.

And pigs might fly one day.

Yes adn you did that by voting for a campaign led by London based politicians who in the main went to Oxford and public schools, and paid for by non dom press barons, tax dodging lords and other multimillionaires

Exactly.

Do people actually believe that Nigel Farage is one of the people? Because he drinks pints?
Nigel Farage, who’s father was a stock exchange trader, worked in the city.... Nigel Farage who went to private school (Dulwich college no less). Nigel Farage who himself became a commodities trader.

Yeah a real “man of the people”. Not one of the elite at all.

So,go on ...,

@Weetabixandshreddie
Your posts do not demonstrate an understanding of the EU nor of MEPs so I beg to differ. Knowing who your MEP is, isn’t the same as knowing what they do.

And again blaming politicians for the NI issue - shows a woeful lack of ignorance. It’s not that easily solvable

If it were then why didn’t the leavers in cabinet - Boris, David Davis and Raab, solve it?

They were in cabinet. They were given the chance to solve it because they wanted it.

And
They
Failed

Because it’s not that bloody easy.

But it is politicians making it difficult. There is no reason why a solution can't be found - they just do not have the will to do it.

The politicians did have the will in N Ireland when it came to the Good Friday Agreement, and it was a hard fought for agreement, involving negotiators from a number of nations. Why these same negotiators should want to spend time finding a bunch of wreckers to save face is beyond me.

So you are happy to trot our you alleged facts but leave solving NI to politicians.
Hint: they solved it with GFA. No Dealers want to tear that up.

Knowing who your MEP is,

This is, of course, knowing who your MEPs are.

That is good for Weetabix because he/she/it voted for a 10% price hike

Did you mean to be so rude?

www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/your-meps/uk_meps.html

Here you go. I googled it so you don't have to.

You hitting peak flounce yet@Weetabixandshreddies , with all these inconvenient questions that you refuse to answer?

And again blaming politicians for the NI issue - shows a woeful lack of ignorance. It’s not that easily solvable

It is the fault of the politicians though - the EU have offered some solutions. TM has refused them.

Quite why the EU has such a problem with goods entering the EU via the UK/Irish border though I don't know. Where's the border between Switzerland and France to stop goods entering that way or at other boarders across Europe? They have either chosen to ignore or found solutions for that so why not NI/Eire?

Did you mean to be so rude?

Of course s/he did!

bellinisurge

Thank you for being so patronising.

My question about the MEPs was rhetorical. They are so far removed from the electorate as to hardly be representative.

They also represent a far far wider area than a constituency MP and the numbers in European Parliament are proportionate to the size of the country aren't they? How is that democratic? The bigger you are the more votes you get?

Who is this "we" who didn't vote against them? I don't remember any consultation.

The 'We' is your MEPs. The ones you will have carefully researched the manifestos of (there's your consultation) and then voted for in the last European Parliamentary Election. You did remember to vote, didn't you?

It was the politicians who voted on our behalf. Yeah! That's kind of what they do in a representative democracy.

I like the one about how they apparently voted for one MEP candidate but that candidate lost, therefore "waaaaaah I'm a victim" and "it's not my responsibility" if

You hitting peak flounce

Not flouncing at all.

Quite flattered that you all seem to think that my 1 vote is so important seeing as it is all my doing entirely that we are heading for Brexit.

Switzerland is in Schengen which is why it doesn't have strict border controls for people. Not the same for goods.
Should we be in Schengen now?

Where's the border between Switzerland and France to stop goods entering that way or at other boarders across Europe? They have either chosen to ignore or found solutions for that so why not NI/Eire?

In relation to Switzerland, I believe it is because even though they aren't in the EU, Swiss regulations for goods and food are fully aligned with the EU (i.e. they accept EU regulations). Is that your preferred system as a leaver? To fully align with the EU's regulations for all our industrial and agricultural output?

{ Did you mean to be so rude?

Of course s/he did!}
Of course I meant it, why do you doubt me?
The terms of being a member will NEVER be better than staying in the EU, by definition as otherwise no one would be in a 'union'.
The FACT that the exchange rate, which is important for many if not all, has fallen something like 4% already and those pesky 'experts' have said it will; fall significantly more.
As a result I think leavers are being worse than rude for DELIBERATELY messing up other peoples lives for no tangible gain.

Nope, never had an MP from a party that I didn't vote for. Safe seat here which just happens to be the party that I always vote for.

Weetabix You might be interested in some of the less well known facts about Ordinary Bloke and all round good egg Nigel Farage

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/48-things-you-need-to-know-about-nigel-farage-1-5292286

These are the kind of people who you helped to sock it to ‘The Elite’

It is the fault of the politicians though

Yes. The leaver politicians.

"Quite flattered that you all seem to think that my 1 vote is so important seeing as it is all my doing entirely that we are heading for Brexit."
I thought you were going to give some intelligent reasoned arguments. Turns out it is the same old same old.