Leave voters? What's your alternative plan for the country if TM's Withdrawal Agreement doesn't get through?

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A small majority of people who voted in the referendum voted Leave. I presume they still want to Leave. How do we do that if the Withdrawal Agreement fails and Parliament has voted through an amendment which allows it to stop No Deal.
Talk me through it ...

Sorry, but MissMalice asked if you would accept foreign troops on uk soil, to help out if there was a situation where uk troops could nt quell a riot and you said NO!

Obv none of us want such a situation but given what is happening in France right now and our small Police and Army, its not beyond the realms of possibility.
France has mobilised 90k police across the country for this, 155k police after the Paris attacks, we simply have not anything like those numbers.

The Scottish Government has now confirmed free tuition in Scotland for EU students commencing their studies in 2018 and 2019.

Just taken this from a Scottish university website.

How can it be the case then if each individual country decides to pay their students fees? This reads that the Scottish government has somehow arranged free tuition for EU students. England is in the EU so why can't English students receive free tuition?

So it’s to do with the EU in as much as the rules for Scottish students and EU students have to be the same. And that’s the same for all EU states - France can’t charge (for example) €3k for their students but €6k for Scottish students. It’s reciprocal.

And as I said before - EU migrants contribute more than they take out. We are literally better off for having EU migrants here even when they get free education, healthcare and welfare.

{Everyone else seems to be a bit wishy washy on it all. Maybe give him a go? Bring him in as a special advisor?}
This was re Farage, earlier. If he had bothered to turn up to more than 1 out of 42 Brussels meetings about fishing (as fisheries minister) there might have been a better discussion in terms of allocations to the UK.
And you want this bozo to be a 'special advisor'?

EU army is essentially formalising agreements on command between the individual armies across Europe.
French army getting some help from Portugal? There were nearly 90,000 troops deployed and across at least 5 cities across France, which is around double the land area of Britain.
Even if they were not actively stopping protestors, it would be a good occasion to demonstrate European unity, a bit like an EU army in fact.
Once you can take your gaze away from Theresa's chain necklace you might realise that the world outside is rather big and quite nasty, with ISIS and Russia in particular on the lookout to cause trouble. China and the USA are using different tactics to dominate Europe. Trump cannot be trusted militarily so a European army (a coalition of existing EU countries armies) is entirely sensible. If they were called on to defend say the Eastern European countries it would be quite handy if they can speak and understand each other's tactics. It's called cooperation, something the UK seems to want out of.

Still no one has come up with a really good money making scheme for the UK to take up once it leaves the EU. Hint, all other countries have trade deals and most things are available from other sources worldwide, so whatever it is will have to be damn special.

England is in the EU so why can't English students receive free tuition?

Because that’s why Scotland decided. Why are you blaming the EU for it?

ENOUGH with the faffing about Portugese soldiers and Scottish tuition fees

Dear REMAINsupporters
stop getting diverted from the real discussion

Dear LEAVE supporters
WHAT is your solution to Brexit?

If you look at the mechanism it is a mechanism whereby each government chooses to pay the fees. Presumably the Scottish government has reciprocal agreements with all the other EU government nexcep the UK. The individual students still need to apply to SAAS to have their fees paid. All EU countries other than the rest of the UK has similar. When I went to a UK uni I paid lower rates as an EU national. My government paid the remaining fees on my behalf.

I disagree, Talkin. Actually I quite respect Weetabix for sticking with the conversation and saying how she sees the situation even though I really don’t agree with her position.

We can only hope to resolve the situation once we have a clear understanding of what the perceived problems are and what the facts really are. If part of the problem is troops and fees then they must be addressed in order to find a solution.

So it’s to do with the EU in as much as the rules for Scottish students and EU students have to be the same. And that’s the same for all EU states - France can’t charge (for example) €3k for their students but €6k for Scottish students. It’s reciprocal.
And this has always been my understanding - that the EU insist on reciprocal agreements and that no EU nationals can be treated worse than a member state's nationals but Unescorted insists that each individual country has negotiated their own deal.

a bit like an EU army in fact.

Indeed. Which is my point. I don't agree with an EU army.

Allow this to follow it's natural conclusion and there won't be individual European countries, is that what you all want, a United States of Europe?

Interesting that Unescorted appears to be a European citizen. I presume that you have a different view on this?

1. We are the EU. We are and were part of that decision making process. UK citizens benefit from reciprocal arrangements.

1. As a member of the EU we get a veto. Do you really want an EU army that we’re not part of? If there’s going to be an EU army either way, how we are better off not being part of it?

Indeed. Which is my point. I don't agree with an EU army

That's the tragedy of Brexit, now an EU Army can happen, with out the UKs input or veto.
We are turning our back on Europe and its decisions and we will be spectators to whatever a German/french alliance decides.

Weetabix
Interesting that Unescorted appears to be a European citizen. I presume that you have a different view on this?
YOU are a European Citizen

I don't consider myself from anywhere. I am eligible for 5 different types of passport. I have lived in the UK for the longest period.

I am eligible for 5 different types of passport.

Green eyed monster here. One of the things I hate the most about Brexit is freedoms taken from me. I dream of being able to apply for another passport.

Unfortunately my husband isn't.... And is ineligible to live in 2 of them because he has a patchy mental health record.

Talkinpeece

Yes but first I am British.

The way that Unescorted spoke, referring to their government part paying fees for them to attend a UK university suggests that they aren't British.

That's the tragedy of Brexit, now an EU Army can happen, with out the UKs input or veto.

And it's this march towards being a super power that is turning me off of being a part of the EU. You have 2 choices go along with it or remove yourselves from it. I just don't agree with forming a United States. Yes, we could veto but that doesn't stop it from happening.

My hope really for Brexit was that us leaving would embolden other countries to do the same and possibly slow this down or take it back to a Common Market.

One of them is Brutish

My hope really for Brexit was that us leaving would embolden other countries to do the same and possibly slow this down or take it back to a Common Market.
Which just shows that you need to read less of the British Press

and gets us no further on why you think the WTO will suddenly become open and accountable once the UK is relying on it ....

And I look forward to applying for my British passport rather than my current EU passport.

or remove yourselves from it.

Except you can’t. The world will go on without us and we become a small, irrelevant country with little to offer. With rising threats from the US, Russia, China and very worrying trends from the far right; I’d much rather be part of a bigger army than be a small army on our own and I’d much rather have a say in how the whole thing works.

Happy to be corrected but I’m fairly sure a veto would stop it happening. That’s what a veto is.

Talkinpeece

As you have all the answers, explain to me what the EU looks like if we remain.

And I look forward to applying for my British passport rather than my current EU passport.

Why? What benefit does it give you? Less rights, longer queues? How does it being an EU passport impact you negatively at all?

To the people who are saying that the government is full of Remainers who want to sabotage Brexit: why is the government full of Remainers? Why did all the pro-Leave politicians back out? Theresa May became PM by default. If there's a realistic way of leaving the EU with a good deal, why haven't any Brexiteer MPs put themselves forward?

er, Y is Weetabix "first I am British" looking "forward to applying for my British passport rather than my current EU passport".

Happy to be corrected but I’m fairly sure a veto would stop it happening. That’s what a veto is.

Not when you are 1 dissenting voice out of 27 others.
Can't believe we have ever had an absolute power of veto.

And there are too many conflicting interests within Europe, who knows where or why a conflict will occur that we would be compelled to intervene in.

Look at our recent wars - some European countries chose not to join in. Would it have been right to force them to fight alongside us?