Post Brexit forecast... How can we trust what experts say?

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www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-3902630/amp/Why-does-Bank-boss-Mark-Carney-getting-wrong.html

This guy got it wrong last time, how can we trust what he says?

Even you must surely see across Europe that there is growing discontent
I have seen political parties going backwards more and more as the U.K. tried to leave the EU and the consequences of it became more and more obvious.
For all it’s defects, the EU is still a positive experience for most countries.

See how the far right in France (or in Germany) that is now never talking about leaving the EU, Not even the euro, when they were very vocal about it 2 years ago.....

as we can see the standard of government over the decades is slowly getting worse
I’m not going to argue with you on that one!
Nothing to do with the eu though.

BorisBogtrotter I think you will find they receive 12% of their income from the EU

"Even you must surely see across Europe that there is growing discontent"
Yep. And even you should be able to see that flushing the country down the toilet - no really down the toilet - isn't the answer.
Unless you are a) a Corbynista who just wants the chaos; or
b) a spiv like JRM whose Dad literally wrote the book on disaster capitalism.

bellinisurge Unfortunately we seem to be in a position now we’re we can’t leave and we can’t stay, Parliament is fighting amongst themselves, public at each other.
I take you are a pessimist and after reading and believing the worst case scenarios expect the worst outcome.

I really don't think it's worth arguing with Hesta. Poor thing seems to struggle with simple understanding. Best leave them to it.

Hope for the best @Hesta54 , prepare for the worst.

MyOtherProfile I’m not looking for an argument, I just don’t see how we can shut the stable door, now that the horse has bolted.

bellinisurge Exactly what I am doing

MyOtherProfile What is it that I’m not understanding? Your views ?

Quietrebel That’s not the same CBI that gets a lot of money off the EU is it

You mean the 0.6% of the CBI’s income that arises from a competitive tender to conduct monthly and quarterly business surveys?

I just don’t see how we can shut the stable door, now that the horse has bolted.
Agree to that too.
Whatever the solution, it will very hard work.
For me, at least, staying in the EU will be hard work for lots of reason but is less likely to send us down a path of anarchy that a No Deal can easily leads us. So it’s not easier as such. But it’s safer.

(With my European hat on, I’d rather notbsee the uk staying tbh because it hasn’t bought into the European dream and wouod only do that out if fear rather than WANTING to stay iyswim.)

"What is it that I’m not understanding? "

The fact that the data disproves your point.

BorisBogtrotter so no data can be manipulated to suit, Lies damned lies and satistics

bellinisurge Looks like you will not have to worry about a no deal now

Hesta54

Why should we pay more so they can buy luxury goods that many people here can’t afford, then they can also come here earn more money than we can going there and they receive better benefits and free healthcare which they don’t get in their own country

Because it supports UK jobs, increases tax take and these UK workers then spend in UK shops etc.
EU citizens here can claim NHS care BUT the NHS should then be reclaiming that cost from their country of origin, unfortunately we don't.

On benefits, you ve a point and i agree, however, if we had a contributory benefits system, like almost all other countries have, the EU citizens claiming benefits wouldn't be able to claim as much, as they ve not contributed! also, after 3 months non supporting eu citizens should be deported, we dont do that.

@Hesta54 - best bit of Brexit news I've had for ages.
On the other hand The suggestion is that May now has something to threaten those wankers with. Support me or there may well be no Brexit at all. Instead of "it's my deal or no deal" "it's my deal or no Brexit ".
To be honest, I'd prefer no Brexit but I would take TM Deal over No Deal.

THe UK Parliament has taken back control from the ERG
excellent stuff

Well, when something happens which delays brexit, I always think it's good, and then May or her cronies think up some other horror, and I go back to despairing again.

@Peregrina - even more convinced that Parliament would stop no deal. Who knows we might get a second referendum where the only choices are TM Deal or No Brexit.
Both of those scenarios are better than No Deal and , who knows, maybe No Brexit would win.

When did cooperation become a bad thing? According to leave voters working with others is tantamount to murdering puppies.

Working with other countries for our mutual benefit is a good thing. Helping others and working together are strengths. How has the dialogue in this country changed so that supporting others and cooperating is now something to be despised?

Can any1, who knows more about politics and law than me please explain simply, why Geoffrey cox was crying and why he’s going to be the 1 to seemingly to take the fall? I thought he gave the legal advise, I didn’t think it was his call to share it with the whole commons? I assumed that would be on Theresa May?

cried, you mean like tear drops coming out of eyes?

Making legal advice public is a MAHOOSIVE thing. No lawyer would advise their client to do it. Everyone, even shitty Tory Governments, is entitled to expect that this info stays "privileged " that is, for the client's eyes only.
The client can chose to waive legal privilege which it has been forced to do here.

Yes! Chin wobble and everything!
I get that, but I don’t get why ppl are saying he’s the 1 in contempt and y ppl are calling for him to be sacked? Surely he was just doing what TM told him to?