Post Brexit forecast... How can we trust what experts say?

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This guy got it wrong last time, how can we trust what he says?

I am very old @Hesta54 . I remember the 70s too.
What is coming is an economic disaster if we leave with no deal. A disaster that suits only one type of person- the carpet baggers/disaster capitalists/spivs who make money out of other people's misfortune. If you are genuinely in poverty now, you will have it even worse in an economic meltdown.
If you have voted for this, you have been conned into thinking your vote = good times.

bellinisurge Isn’t a shame that past and previous governments had lEd this nation to a position were can’t stand on its own two feet, what has happened to us ?

Unfortunately then it will have to be ( like exercise) short term pain for long term gain

We did stand on our own two feet. In the real world as part of a large economic bloc - one of the largest in the world. It had its flaws and its members each looked at it slightly differently. But we stood on our own two feet. Any flaws in our country are of our own making and not anything to do with the EU. This isn't just cutting your nose off to spite your face it's hacking off several limbs. Drowning not waving.

Short doesn't mean weeks it means years. And real pain - like good shortages and, especially in NI, possible power cuts. And that's the optimistic view. How dare you inflict that on my daughter?

"That’s not the same CBI that gets a lot of money off the EU is it"

Nope its paid for by its members.

Trying to imply that the CBI would back the EU because its bribed is poor.

Ha! Food shortages not good shortages.

Parliament would never let us No Deal because it would be catastrophic. MPs on all sides would stop it.

You'd think so, wouldn't you, but after the way Parliament has behaved over the past two and a half years, I am not at all confident. With a few honourable exceptions they all appear to think their job is to look after Number 1.

Of course the government has to prioritise spending, but if it WANTED to fund the NHS properly it could over say upgrading Trident.

My only hope would be if we crashed out is that this would kill projects like Trident stone dead. By all means have an army, navy and air force for defence, but not have to go running in behind whatever war the US wants to propagate next.

Btw 9 billion per annum equals about £140 per head of UK population - it's not exactly a vast sum of money - less than £3 a week.

@Peregrina - hope for the best; prepare for the worst. That's why I'm a prepper.

bellinisurge Isn’t a shame that past and previous governments had lEd this nation to a position were can’t stand on its own two feet, what has happened to us ?

This is a very good impression of a shit for brains Brexiteer, I commend you!

bellinisurge I think you will find, it’s not me, but Parliament inflicting this on your daughter ( she might thank them in the future) I like you have no power in the ongoing situation,
The EU needs to change, and is not showing any signs of wanting to change if anything is getting more power hungry as seen by the recent clip of GV in a rage saying the trouble for the EU is that nations will not had over power.

Peregrina £12-15 a week for an average family, I know a lot of families that could do with that money,

mostdays So if we can stand on are own feet, why are you so worried about leaving the EU

Nope @Hesta54 , if you voted Leave, this mess is on you. Aided and abetted by the Tories, I grant you, but this is a Leavers' mess and you should be big enough to own it.

bellinisurge I let you know, when we’ve left, then we can all see the truth one way or another.

That’s sort of comments sacrés me more than anyth8ng else.

Who on earth wouod be happy to risk so much on the grounds that maybe, just maybe, it will be better than everyone thinks it will be (inc hard brexiters such as JRM)? Who can be happy to take such risk wo evaluating what are the exact risks and then prepare for it?

bellini I didn’t realise you have lived in an eastern country at that time. I get why you are a prepper now.
I think it’s experiencing that sort of barship an sinstability taut reminds you it can happen.
Instead after years an years of stable government, economy going up and up, I think a lot of people have forgotten that life can get very hard and very quickly.

bellinisurge I do own it ( what ever that means) it’s up to Parliament, how or if we leave not me, I will respect the decision, right or wrong, As we live in a democracy or I thought we did

And @Hesta54 , if parliament stops us leaving at all? Will you respect that?

EtVoilaBrexit Because of life experience, And like most things, it’s never as bad as you say it will be, proof is in the pudding

My mistake, but don't think the current government is going to bother to give struggling families an extra £12-£15 a week. You only have to look at the roll out of Universal Credit to see how they treat the poor.

Hesta the givernment is elected and so are their policies.
If someone is voting Tories, they ARE voting to cut benefits and making people poorer and poorer. They ARE voting for policies going against human rights (according to the UN report btw).
When someone is voting for brexit, they ARE voting to take thé risk of a No Deal.
And they ARE voting to make us ALL poorer (bar I suspect the super rich).
Saying it’s not you is misunderstanding how a democracy works. Your as a voter, choose the MP, the PM and in effect the givernment as well as the policies going with it. When the Tories got voted into power again after TM GE, voters CHOOSE her policy re Brexit. Therefore you as much as the givernment are responsible for the consequences of those policies. Because you choose them to represent you and put in place those policies.

bellinisurge Yes of course, As long as they give assurance about, listening and acting on people’s concerns re immigration,
But it will only put a plaster on a large wound, the debate, like for you will just carry on in the back ground untill it rises to the top again,
Even you must surely see across Europe that there is growing discontent

Sorry *, it seems that my life experiences are different than yours.
I have lived somewhere that was politically unstable and I KNOW it can be bad.
I’ve also seen my aunt dying because of a civil war that suddenly exploded and my cousin becoming an orphan due to that.

So yes because of life experiences, I’ve learnt that not to take political stability for granted.

You clearly have been lucky enough to be quite sheltered. Don’t reject other people’s experiences that tell a different story

Some people yes, will do OK if the UK crashes out. The last war taught us that, and not just the spivs and black marketers. My own DM and MIL both ended up with well paid work, previously only open to men, as a result. DH's GF had been in and out of work during the 1930s and once the war came he was never out of work again until he chose to retire sometime in the 60s. Having said that, no one in their right mind wants war, with death, injury, displacement and destruction.

EtVoilaBrexit I have chosen to vote for different parties over the years, and as we can see the standard of government over the decades is slowly getting worse,