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Post Brexit forecast... How can we trust what experts say?

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mummmy2017 · 29/11/2018 18:29

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-3902630/amp/Why-does-Bank-boss-Mark-Carney-getting-wrong.html

This guy got it wrong last time, how can we trust what he says?

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recently · 03/12/2018 10:03

It is laughable how your calling me a fantasist when everything I would like to happen is possible...
It is laughable that you think that what you would like to happen is MORE likely after Brexit when there is LESS money. Can't you see how illogical this is?

UnnecessaryFennel · 03/12/2018 10:15

I have read some bullshit on these threads over the last couple of years, but this takes the biscuit. You are living in an utter dreamland mummmy.

It would be funny, if you weren't dragging the rest of us into the entirely predictable endgame of your insane fantasies too.

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mummmy2017 · 03/12/2018 10:31

Oh back to but that all costs money...
Fantasy to expect farming and industry ti get a helping hand... Really when it has already been spoken of in Parliament...
Then if no nurses apply to work here training is only option...
More housing proposed by TM herself...

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LonelyandTiredandLow · 03/12/2018 10:34

I'm guessing you also believe the tripe that austerity is about to end, despite the fact we are spending hand over fist trying to sort out Brexit?

That we are losing EU immigrants who pay into our economy more than those born here and swapping them for non-EU immigrants who don't? Who makes up that shortfall created solely by Brexit?

Loletta · 03/12/2018 10:35

mummmy did you vote for the Tories in the general election?

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 10:38

"Fantasy to expect farming and industry ti get a helping hand"

Actually any "helping hand" we give farming and industry needs to be approved by the WTO if we are trading under their terms.

Things can be discussed in Parliament, it doesn't mean they will happen.

Buteo · 03/12/2018 11:00

Oh back to but that all costs money...

Yup. It does. There is no magic money tree (unless you’re the DUP).

How do you propose the government will pay for all of this?

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mummmy2017 · 03/12/2018 11:07

Not my job to price it all out.
This is my personal thoughts not facts.
Nothing is ever all bad, there will be bonuses, we just don't know what they will be...
But your all so worried about your bank accounts you see no good in anything.

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BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 11:09

Nope not worried about my bank account at all.

Not worried about the impact that it will have on you either.

Worried about the impact it will have on millions of people who didn't vote for this.

"Not my job to price it all out" you couldn't if you tried, and brexiters complain when they get called stupid.

Buteo · 03/12/2018 11:14

Not worried about my bank account either. More concerned about how the DC will manage, but they’re both smart and will be internationally mobile.

bellinisurge · 03/12/2018 11:18

Nice that you don't have to worry about paying your bills and are free to relax in idle contemplation about whether or not your actions are going to screw up the economy. Must be nice in your world, not to have to think of consequences.

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 11:21

Mummy will feel the concequences alright.

When the JRM and Bojo types screw the benefits system even more.

When her children's education funding is cut.

When the health service budget falls.
They can pay privately for these things if they need to, mummy can''t

frumpety · 03/12/2018 11:24

Nothing is ever all bad, there will be bonuses, we just don't know what they will be...

Go on make my day and tell me it is going to be an exciting adventure too Grin

bellinisurge · 03/12/2018 11:26

Many things are actually "all bad". Childish no nonsense to think otherwise.

Random18 · 03/12/2018 11:33

Mummy - I guess you have kids given your username.

Why is it so important to you to throw their futures away?

Why do you want to take away their hopes and dreams?

Because esstthag is what you are doing?

The British Empire is no more ( thank god) and it will never exist again.

Loletta · 03/12/2018 11:41

Not worried about my bank account either. More concerned about how the DC will manage, but they’re both smart and will be internationally mobile.

Same here. Hopefully my DCs will figure it out too (plus they're very lucky to have Italian citizenship as well)

lonelyplanetmum · 03/12/2018 11:57

But your all so worried about your bank accounts you see no good in anything.

Odd to keep on repeating this when some of us have explained that we are worried about those below the poverty line, individuals and families with children struggling, those with mental and physical disabilities, those in need of food banks and reliant on the NHS.

Why can't Mummy accept that many remain supporters voted and still act because of concern about the country as a whole and out of concern for others?

Perhaps there's just an underlying glint of guilt that unwavering support for ditching unrestricted access to a $18.8 trillion market may have been a selfish act. Is that it, is there an anxiety that just perhaps you have participated in bringing about change that is harmful not only to yourself and others too?

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 12:02

Its not odd, its an ad hominem, mummy lost the ability to argue rationally a while back.

The constant portrayal of the leave victory as a victory for the working classes is ridiculous.

What happened was the working classes voted against their own interests because they were manipulated by the leave campaign.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 03/12/2018 12:09

Totally agree Boris

It’s other things like Insulin, we make just 1% of our supplies and are stockpiling in preparation for a Non Deal Brexit. There are other things which cannot be stockpiled and which are vital for tests etc....some of those we rely on Europe for entirely as we make none of it.

We are not ready for Brexit.

Love that The Sun have now turned on TM for triggering A50 “too early” when they were ranting about her taking too long to do so at the time,

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 12:13

Its part of the way this is going to be played by those who led the campaign and did the cheerleading.

It isn't their fault, it would have been better if it had been done their way, when they were in charge it was the nasty EU bullying us.

Leave voters and campaigners will abdicate responsibility, it will have been the fault of remainers and the EU.

pointythings · 03/12/2018 12:14

I am not worried about my bank account either. If need be, my girls and I can leave and settle elsewher, thanks to our awesome burgundy passports. But we have many friends and family members who don't have that choice, quite a few on low incomes and some with health issues or disabilities. Brexit is going to make their lives harder and foreign/well off or not, we do actually give a damn.

But you can't argue reasonably with a true BeLeaver.

lonelyplanetmum · 03/12/2018 12:29

What happened was the working classes voted against their own interests because they were manipulated by the leave campaign.

There's also a weird self flagellation thing in the overall vote that I can't explain very well.

It's like the Remain voters are generally aghast at harm to the country, compassionate, trying to do their best for the greater good and yet get attacked and criticised for being out to feather their own nests?

Yet Leave politicians like Mogg are trusted by the least wealthy Leave voters? It's as if there's more respect and trust towards the self interested than towards the compassionate. It's sort of like you treat me mean, so I respect and trust that. Maybe selfish politicians fit a vision of a selfish world.

I can't explain it well but it's like trusting the witch in Hansel and Gretel who is out to eat you - it's weird.

derxa · 03/12/2018 12:39

It's like the Remain voters are generally aghast at harm to the country, compassionate, trying to do their best for the greater good and yet get attacked and criticised for being out to feather their own nests?
I'm a Remain voter but I don't believe that all 'Remainers' are 'compassionate and trying to do their best for the greater good'. To me that sounds absolutely ridiculous.

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 12:43

Its confirmation bias, they filter out all the information they don't want to see, whilst trusting everything that confirms what they already think they know.

I mean calling a campaign run by people who went to public schools and Oxford, paid for by millionaires, and backed by a newspapers owned by a non-dom hereditary peer, non dom knights of the realm and Rupert Murdoch anti- lite is ridiculous.

Not questioning why these people wanted this, what their vested interest was, is further example.

Repeatedly attacking any organisation or person who presented opposing views as having vested interests in the EU because the EU was paying them was another thing.

lonelyplanetmum · 03/12/2018 13:04

I don't believe all people who voted remain have compassion and are trying to do their best for the country as a whole but it seems to me that far more Remain voters and politicians are trying to see the bigger picture.

Why are there repeated accusations on here that Remain voters are only interested in their own wealth. That isn't the case from my observation.