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Post Brexit forecast... How can we trust what experts say?

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mummmy2017 · 29/11/2018 18:29

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-3902630/amp/Why-does-Bank-boss-Mark-Carney-getting-wrong.html

This guy got it wrong last time, how can we trust what he says?

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mummmy2017 · 03/12/2018 08:19

How do we know if trade deals will be profitable... They could be mega deals...
The financial sectors could rocket.
The pound will rise again, when don't know.
Industry will improve. If we can't import as it becomes to expensive.
Farmers will gear up and produce more, government will help as they will have to.
More doctors, nurses ect will be trained... Government will have to change the policy on this. Good thing for our youth..
If we do go out, then you really thing the EU are going to stop selling to us, so all the problems will be sorted. Because they have to be...

Ha ha you think planes will be grounded for ever... Nice one... That will be sorted as well..
All I hear is from you lot is... oh it will cost us money. I will lose financially from this so, is that the truth the money is what worries you all...

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Buteo · 03/12/2018 08:26

the truth the money is what worries you all

Where will the funding come from to invest in the UK if Brexit leaves the UK poorer?

recently · 03/12/2018 08:30

Mummmy- just out of interest. When you teach your children to cross the road, do you tell them to look both ways first or run for it and hope for the best? Confused

lonelyplanetmum · 03/12/2018 08:56

government will help as they will have to.

This is the nub Mummy, successive governments could and should have done that anyway.

ragged · 03/12/2018 08:56

In the alternative universe, where Cameron invoked A50 at 11am on 24.6.16, I wonder how quickly we would have had the 3rd Referendum.

Loletta · 03/12/2018 08:57

All of your post is wishful thinking mummmy
And even if you're right and all of that happens eventually, what about the interim? How long is the short term "suffering" going to last and why would it be all worth it in the end?

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 09:06

Mummy is a deluded fantasist who voted for her own special kind of brexit ( like every other voter) and will be bitterly disappointed in life outside of the EU.

lonelyplanetmum · 03/12/2018 09:07

so, is that the truth the money is what worries you all...

Actually no it's people struggling, those below the poverty line, families with children struggling, those with mental and physical disabilities, those in need of food banks and reliant on the NHS.

It is in all those people's interests to return to being a leading member of a powerful trading bloc.

Maximising our economy for those people is more important than the nebulous notions of those who were fooled by false promises of control and sovereignty and relied on empty rhetoric about a plan which didn't (and still doesn't) exist.

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mummmy2017 · 03/12/2018 09:11

Yes the last fourty years the government should have but didn't do enough.
Money from houses sold should have only be used to rebuild more homes...
Roads should have been fixed.
Nurses should have been financially encouraged into the work force while single.. If University's can build dorms for students why can't hospitals do the same... 6k a year for your own room and kitchen access, if your job paid 20k... It would have meant it paid to do the job and you wouldn't have to find accommodation it would have come with the job. Live within walking distance of job..
Creative answers need to be found for problems...
Many leavers believe leaving is the only way to force change as nothing else seems to be getting through to the people in charge.

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BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 09:13

None of that was on the ballot.

Fantasy.

lonelyplanetmum · 03/12/2018 09:16

Many leavers believe leaving is the only way to force change

But it will produce a change that is the opposite of what you want.

Buteo · 03/12/2018 09:28

If University's can build dorms for students why can't hospitals do the same... 6k a year for your own room and kitchen access, if your job paid 20k... It would have meant it paid to do the job and you wouldn't have to find accommodation it would have come with the job.

And that is how many nurses lived and were trained up until 1986 when Project 2000 shifted nurse training away from hospitals and into universities Confused

pointythings · 03/12/2018 09:34

None of the things you want changing are anything at all to do with the EU though. Successive governments have failed to address them - why do you think they will do so outside the EU when there is less funding for any of it? Your utter lack of logic just makes me Confused

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mummmy2017 · 03/12/2018 09:40

Because they won't do it now.
The leave vote has changed things.
More will change, that is what we want as it sure as heck isn't working for lots of us now...
If 1/3 like it. How it is.
If 1/3 don't like it...
And the remaining 1/3 don't care...
Why do we have to go with the like it lot, too keep the peace.

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BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 09:43

You are a fantasist, nothing has changed except we are leaving the EU, which was on the ballot.

Its funny to see you write all this rubbish, like the automotive workers in the US you are going to be bitterly disappointed. You see, the people running the campaign that you voted for have a totally different vision to you, and they think people like you deserve your position in life.

derxa · 03/12/2018 09:43

Mummy is a deluded fantasist who voted for her own special kind of brexit ( like every other voter) and will be bitterly disappointed in life outside of the EU. You obviously don't believe in democracy. In addition there were only two choices on the ballot paper. No 'special kind of brexit' option.

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 09:46

How does that equal me not believiong in democracy.

In the democratic process that Mummy and the rest of us took part in, there was no manifesto offering what mummy wants, there is no one to hold to account for the promises made by the leave campaign.

Mummy, and many other brexiters voted for what they wanted to change, not what was on the ballot, or for any reasons to do with the EU.

bellinisurge · 03/12/2018 09:54

"Many leavers believe leaving is the only way to force change as nothing else seems to be getting through to the people in charge."

Many leavers have a nasty surprise coming their way. Where is all this benevolence (and the money to pay for it) coming from? When will it be here if it ever comes?

Quietrebel · 03/12/2018 09:54

Yes, if anything mummmy you'll be giving the current lot in power even more power. Labour may well have a different vision but they will need money to implement it and leaving the EU will be so expensive in itself, they just won't have the means to do a 10th of what you want.
Stay in the EU then kick the Tories out. That's the way to go.

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mummmy2017 · 03/12/2018 09:57

We were asked what we wanted in or out.
You asked what I personally wanted...
It is laughable how your calling me a fantasist when everything I would like to happen is possible...
Even has been proposed in the last two years... As possible to happen.
Because we sure ain't going back to what was....

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LonelyandTiredandLow · 03/12/2018 10:00

No, you chose the mystery box. No one knew what was inside the mystery box and we are now discovering that it means we will all be poorer.

Bearbehind · 03/12/2018 10:01

mummmy everything on your list was possible without leaving the EU.

If successive governments chose not to do anything about them then, why on earth do you think they will happen outside the EU?

The ones about farming, industry and training are particularly laughable.

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 10:01

Your reasons for voting leave are fantasy.

Things will get worse for you.

BorisBogtrotter · 03/12/2018 10:02

Farming and industry which would be decimated by the plans backed by the people who ran the leave campaign.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 03/12/2018 10:02

Here is the article I was thinking of
Brexit the mystery box