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Westminstenders: May plays Sale of the Century

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RedToothBrush · 28/11/2018 12:17

Theresa May is currently in the midst of a campaign to sell her deal to the public. Unfortunately she appears that there are only 649 people she needs to sell it to, and that's not going so well.

She attempted a sales pitch to potential Labour rebels and succeeded in getting them to actively decide to vote against her.

There are currently 100 backbench tories who have stated they will vote against it, which makes parliamentary maths very difficult.

There is a rising support for plan b in the form of Norway Plus. This may make Remainers less likely to vote for a deal but persuade some leavers to back May.

The ECJ A50 Court case has been heard. Judgment has not been given yet. Its due 'soon'.

Next week the Withdrawal Agreement will be debated in Parliament with the vote due at 7pm on Tuesday 11th December.

Expect a rough couple of weeks.

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Grinchly · 04/12/2018 16:58

Here we go

Grinchly · 04/12/2018 16:59

Wowwww

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 16:59

Ayes 311 No 293

Government lost

Who Abstained??!

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Grinchly · 04/12/2018 16:59

Huge huge moment.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 04/12/2018 16:59

The contempt motion passes. Wow

Grinchly · 04/12/2018 17:01

Starmer has requested the advice be published. Lead some is saying they will publish the advice, but refer to privmcommittee re use of humble address

DGRossetti · 04/12/2018 17:03

Imagine if people in front of a court - magistrate or Crown - behaved like the government (or Home Office) ?

The reek of hypocrisy is enough to make you gag.

Does anyone know how easy it is to stick a head on a spike ? Apparently it's frowned upon to practice in a morgue these days. It's political correctness gone mad I tell you.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:03

Its amendment d we are most interested, for the next vote.

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Grinchly · 04/12/2018 17:04

This is the Grieve amendment RTB isn't it?

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:04

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
BREAKING: the government

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DGRossetti · 04/12/2018 17:05

6Starmer has requested the advice be published. Lead some is saying they will publish the advice, but refer to privmcommittee re use of humble address^

be curious to see (if the advice is published) whether Starmer et al agree there was a case for it being confidential. Because if not, it rather rams a hole in the Governments repeated secrecy elsewhere.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:05

Shortly yes. Amendment d is Grieve III.

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DGRossetti · 04/12/2018 17:05

BBC reporting advice to be published.

Talkinpeece · 04/12/2018 17:06

blimey falimey

Motheroffourdragons · 04/12/2018 17:09

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RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:11

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46445290
West Belfast: Man shot dead in car

Outside a school. At home time.

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DGRossetti · 04/12/2018 17:12

West Belfast: Man shot dead in car. Outside a school. At home time.

Btexiteers wanted a return to the good old days. Looks like they're here. SadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSad

and also

AngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngry

I want my country back.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:12

Mother it is refered to the Parliamentary Privileges Comittee to decide what the punishment is.

It should be noted at this point that the SNP and Labour hold 4 votes compared to 3 for the Conservatives.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/12/2018 17:13

gosh. I had stepped away for something I had to do.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:15

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Geoffrey Cox looks defeated. He’s slumped with his arms folded, staring at the floor, occasionally throwing his head a long way back and staring at the ceiling

Laurens Cerulus @laurenscerulus
It’s looking increasingly likely the Belgian government doesn’t make it to the end of the week.

I have NO IDEA what this is about or what it means, but surely the timing isn't the best for the UK / EU getting a deal approved by governments.

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Motheroffourdragons · 04/12/2018 17:16

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RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:17

Robert Peston @Peston
Labour will support Grieve's amendment - saying it makes MPs' voice more meaningful on Brexit. So presumably it will now go to a vote

The Columnist @Sime0nStylites
The Grieve amendment will pass. More than 20 signatories.

If it gets to the vote without the government managing to see it off, that is.

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RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:19

Faisal Islam @faisalislam
Nigel Dodds tells Sky News “these are historic times - first time a Government has been found in contempt” confirms the DUP voted against on both contempt motions.

“We haven’t broken the confidence & supply deal - Theresa May broke it”

Officially a minority government.

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Motheroffourdragons · 04/12/2018 17:20

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RedToothBrush · 04/12/2018 17:20

The Columnist @Sime0nStylites
The govt going back on its previous assurances to the Conservative rebels is yet another self inflicted disaster.

Chickens are roosting.

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