A little quiz for leavers mainly, but anyone may answer

[PrincessMargaret]

If you voted leave, please answer at least three of these, it must include #6.

1. Can you name a bad EU law?
2. What will you do outside the EU that you couldn't do inside the EU?
3. How will WTO tariffs keep us competitive?
4. How will border controls keep our lorries moving?
5. Why would any Multinational stay in the UK with tariffs, mountains of “country of origin” paperwork, and border hold ups?
6. How can you solve the Northern Ireland problem?
7. The EU citizen Hostile Environment. We now have twice as many NON EU immigrants coming to the UK to work than EU, how is that better?
8. Under WTO rules any one of 163 countries can hold a trade deal up for years, is that taking back control?
9. Trade deals take 8 years on average, what do we do in the meantime?
10. Where do you get your information from, ever thought there may be a hidden agenda?

Very interested to see the responses.

A government that stops fire fighting problems and comes up with some original ideas...

I’m a keen remainer and while I disagree, I found some of the leave posts on this thread very moving.

For years, UK politicians have been blaming the EU for problems in our society. Problems they themselves were too lazy, indifferent or self interested to tackle.

I have been baffled by the reasons ordinary people would vote to leave but I think I get it now.
If it feels like you’ve nothing left to lose then all of us wringing our hands about the impact of WTO on the financial services sector must be enraging.

Truth is, no one really knows what things will be like in 10/15 years time.
One can only hope a better crop of leaders is wrought from the coming bonfire.

Why, this ties us too the EU for every...
MP's are facing up to the fact this deal is no win. It is a bodge it job...

Labour dare not vote for it....
This is their chance and they know it...

mummmy
A government that stops fire fighting problems and comes up with some original ideas...
What would you want them to do that would impact you on a daily basis ?
Something tangible that you can measure and say Yup, that was because of Brexit

This is their chance and they know it...

No it’s not.

‘Their chance’ was the last GE.

And every opportunity since then to oppose this shambolic process.

It’s too late now.

Thank you for saying you understand.. Sleightofmind.

We do feel ignored forgotten and abandoned, so we voted to change.

PC encouraged by the EU has damaged our youth and young adults.

The snowflake generation are so full of their own sense of entitlement, that they never expect thing to not go their way, the paddies you see from people who are in the wrong but refuse to admit it, how can life be reconciled when the people who scream the loudest are the ones who get TV are demanding something that they have been told no about...

Go after Google. EBAY Facebook and Amazon for taxes...
MAYBE
There could be a tax payable by any online company, paid direct to the government...

The money used to lower business rates so shops stop closing

mummmy you are dir citing your anger in the wrong place.

The EU have nothing to do with us not charging sufficient tax to large coroporations.

In fact TM has threatened to make the UK a tax haven to encourage investment once outside the EU.

I dont doubt your feelings of desperation are very real, but voting to leave the EU is going to make things worse not better.

mummmy
But I still do not understand how you think that Brexit
and thus handing total control to people like Rees Mogg and Bojo and David Davis and Liam Fox and Dominic Raab
will make things better for you ?

They do not care about the poor / the unlucky / the regions
they are all super rich and are busily lining their own nests before the crash they have caused.

Go after Google. EBAY Facebook and Amazon for taxes...
The EU has been
The UK Government very pointedly has not .....
On 2nd April EU tax law will change to make it much harder for the big companies to avoid tax
but the UK will be out of the EU by then .....

I can see how badly many people needed change and I can also see how people might blame the EU as one of the causes of the desperate circumstances they find themselves in.

A vote to shake up the establishment and pull Britain out must seem very appealing under those circs.

I believe most of the problems facing those who have been left behind in modern Britain have been caused by our domestic policies and our own politicians.

Many of the British politicians who are keen on a hard Brexit genuinely think people who are not born wealthy or don’t manage to become so, are feckless scum.

The EU would not let those people take away rights and benefits from the poorest. I’m really worried that the Leave vote will put the people who care the least in charge of the people who need the most.

Yes but look how Labour changed..
Corban, is a direct result of the change in voting wants and needs.
He got in because so many people sign up to vote on the leader of the Labour Party.
Change will happen... And he has said he will not back May's deal...
He may not be who I want as PM but he is probably going to be the reason I do get out of the EU.

mummmy
Corbyn will never be Prime Minister.
For a start he does not want to and for a second, no moderate Labour supporter, let alone the middle ground, will vote for him.
He is adamantly Pro Brexit. The middle will never forgive him for not opposing the Tories.

I do not know which news you watch, but you need to read more sources.

MP's are changing how they do things... They are running scared of the electorates and listening to people more.
The poor and older of the UK are capable of out voting the richer elements, Blair got in on a time for change, May is trying to please everyone... That never happens.
This leaving is a new turning point in UK politics, a warning that we are not happy with the way the UK is heading, and much as people don't like it they have no choice, like a river in full flood this is stronger than they think and will lead to a leaving of the EU..
Will the EU refuse to sell us goods... Don't thing so... Prices go up they sell less, yeah but it won't be for ever... The pound is low due to the worries of what will happen, but that will soon be sorted and our economy will survive and flourish, it may take a few years but look how far we have come in the last 100 years... Change always happens and there will always be highs and lows it happened before and during the EU. So will happen afterwards as well.

"MP's are changing how they do things... They are running scared of the electorates and listening to people more."

No they really aren't.

"The poor and older of the UK are capable of out voting the richer elements,"

No they aren't, you don't understand how FPTP works if you state this. Only a few people in a few seats actually matter. #

Actually all of that post is just bollocks really.

You voted, you signed the death warrant for yourself and your children.

You won, but it was actually losing.

Get over it.

Your the one kidding yourself.
The BBC even admit it will be almost impossible for the vote to go May's way.
It has been all over the news today...

BTW the lower growth, the cuts to services.

They'll all hit people like you harder.

How come we won Brexit then...
How come we had the vote in the first place...
Things are changing.

I'm not kidding myself about anything.

No deal won't happen.

MAy's deal will squeak over the line with a tiny majority because politicians will realise its this, no deal, or remaining.

I mean I'm all for remaining, and this deal shows that what was said by the remain camp all along was correct.

There are no unicorns, there is no cake and eat it scenario, and it is not bullying or blackmail for the EU to look after its own interests.

What has actually happened is the UK has been given its first taste of its strength in international trade negotiations.

The no dealers want a crash out because they can then ride out the economic chaos whilst stripping away the welfare state and a whole host of other regulations, this is the red tape they complain about, not the bits that allow us to trade with other countries.

Yet you vote for them.

May said austerity is ending..
NO I don't believe it, but it does mean the government are worried, and trying to spin things...
Change.

The EU is fed up of Brexit..
Our strength is coming out with no deal...
Then only will things change.
Right now we have a PM who is weak due to trying to please everyone.
Out we can and will have change...

"How come we won Brexit then..."

Because the leave campaign made promises it couldn't keep. Because the leave campaign cheated. Because the leave campaign became all things to all men, despite the conflicting views. Because people were stupid and voted leave for reasons that were nothing to do with the EU.

Brexit was won because it brought together a broad church of grievances under one belt for one moment, it would never happen again.

"How come we had the vote in the first place"

Because Cameron used it in the manifesto to try to get some of the Tory eurosceptics and their old middle class voters away from UKIP. He never thought he would have to do it.

Because the 2010 election ended in coalition, and small but vocal factions can have big influences on party politics when there is no large majority.

Because Cameron thought that winning outright in 2015 meant that the party would vote with him

"Things are changing."

Not if May's WA goes through parliament, if not things will change for the worse.

Our strength is coming out with no deal...
No, sorry it isn't.
With no deal we will be shivering outside the door asking people to hurry up and unlock the door so that we can feel a little warmth.
Will the EU refuse to sell us goods... Don't thing so...
Nobody has ever said that they would refuse.
But with no deal it would be illegal for them to do so
until there is a deal
and they can happily sell to each other in the mean time
waiting for the UK to come to its senses
May said austerity is ending..
Austerity can only end with massive tax rises or a huge increase in the deficit. Take your pick. There are no more magic money trees

The EU can happily sell to us in the meantime, but if there are any issues with this its not as important to the EU as a collective as it is to us.

4% of their GDP vs 15% of ours.

{but look how far we have come in the last 100 years...}
The 'Empire' was dying out by this point but now Westminster can't even hold England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland together. That is pretty spectacular incompetence.
The WA is all that is on offer, the UK has a choice of that or pretty much no deal.
Remain COULD be an option but it would demand a TOTAL turn around of UK opinion, so very unlikely.
The EU have had best part of 40 years of the UK whinging, wining and insufficient commitment so it is time for the UK to go.