AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

[frumpety]

I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.


Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

[Ohallright]

I voted to stay. However, the thing with the referendum is that ALL sides are now playing party or personal power politics.

Nobody really believes Corbin was a remainder. He was so lack-lustre during the Brexit vote, it was embarrassing.

Conservatives have always been split on this, before and after. I think Boris is a disgrace to his party and his country. He has the Trump style of truthfulness - I say what suits me very loudly 3 times and then claim it as truth. He is a slimy tove!

The Liberals are irrelevant in this as the are not being constructive in how to leave. I have voted for them in the past, but will not again.

The difficulty is that any exit, except a hard one, needs negotiation. As the polititions are playing for future power, Nobody is looking out for what is the best brexit that the EU will allow. So whatever TM negotiates will be sunk as a group will want their preferred position. There is not a majority consensus.

The vot3 went against remain. Adults need to negotiate how. I despair

[HarveyNickNacks]

It can be totally stopped. And no. If everyone got behind it and just believed it wouldn't stop it being an utter shit show. Believing in it doesn't make it a good thing!

How exactly would me talking to my MP - a Brexiter - enable the importation of radioactive isotopes via Euratom - an organisation we have to leave?

Im sorry but please educate yourself. You are talking utter bollocks. I'm in government. Are you?

[DevonCherry]

Rioting I doubt. But I think people would stop engaging in democracy and start listening to anti-democratic groups more and more. Give it a decade or two and you would see fascist/communist uniforms on the streets of Britain and then you would start seeing street violence.

^ This. And then who knows. It's quite frightening really.

[HarveyNickNacks]

We should ignore Studyinghell in my opinion.

It's very clear from the comments that the OP has very little knowledge of Brexit and what membership of the EU means. Looks like a troll account.

Be positive! Unicorns all round!

[PebbleDashed]

I'm not sure about riots but yes, there would be more violence. When do you classify something as a riot? Is the outbreak of violence after football games classed as rioting? I think that those voting leave would naturally tend to be the angry ones. I also think that many of the middle classes, which are strongly represented on mumsnet, are totally unaware of the extent to which violence is a normality for many people in Britain, and just how angry people are getting as real livelihoods are taken away, living costs go up, some few are pretty much unaffected while consumerism notches up the pace.

[BertrandRussell]

" Believed it or not some under 30s did actually vote to leave too.... I am 25 and everyone I know voted to leave."
Makeahouseahome- can you explain why?

[Studyinghell]

@Staringcoat

Have you read the Act? B4 article 50 it could of been stopped, but not now

[BMW6]

I think this post is very thought provoking and insightful

Rioting I doubt.

But I think people would stop engaging in democracy and start listening to anti-democratic groups more and more. Give it a decade or two and you would see fascist/communist uniforms on the streets of Britain and then you would start seeing street violence.

If the people cannot bring about change (for better or worse) through peaceful voting, but still urgently desire change, what options other than violence will be left? It will take a while, but it would destroy the liberal democratic order utterly, forcing either the creation of a tyrannical police state or a brutal revolution.

[Studyinghell]

What ignore me because you don’t like what I’m saying? Because burying your head in the sand is working so well for you, honestly I don’t even know why I bothered to comment, always the same on these post.

[BakedBeans47]

General elections get redone every few years. That 'democracy' argument doesn't work.

This. It will be nearly 3 years since the vote by the time Brexit takes effect. Political opinions can certainly change over that time frame.

As for riots yes the extremists might but it’s hard to imagine pensioners and gammon taking to the street in droves

[Studyinghell]

HarveyNickNacks

It can be totally stopped. And no. If everyone got behind it and just believed it wouldn't stop it being an utter shit show. Believing in it doesn't make it a good thing!

How? You explain how exactly 💤

How exactly would me talking to my MP - a Brexiter - enable the importation of radioactive isotopes via Euratom - an organisation we have to leave

Did you try? Did you ask questions, get any reassurances?

Im sorry but please educate yourself. You are talking utter bollocks. I'm in government. Are you?

And you’re proud of that :/ If I was I wouldn’t admit it on here! Being “in” government hardly makes you a specialist, unless yours a draftsman? Minister? Doubtful!

[FaFoutis]

Studyinghell is the verbal equivalent of a riot. Hurts my head anyway.

[HarveyNickNacks]

Nope Studyinghell Maybe write a post in clear English that makes sense.

Maybe recognise that in law it can be stopped. And it can. Article 50 can be withdrawn at any time before the day we are scheduled to leave.

And give me 5 benefits as to how both our lives will be better when we leave the EU and what laws exactly the EU enacted that you disagree with and that negatively impacted you?

[dawnacorns]

YANBU

There should be a second vote, now that people have a bit more information etc.

[AutumnCrow]

B4 article 50 it could of been stopped, but not now

Oh for goodness' sake. My eyes. My brain.

[HarveyNickNacks]

At least I'm fucking trying. My MP is a Brexiteer. My son needs radioacitve isotopes so yes I am consantly fucking trying. Every fucking single day. And we don't 'have' to leave Euratom. It's just that some tax dodging fucking Tory MP arsholes decree it.

And yes. I am a specialist. A senior one. And it's spelled draughtsman. Not that I'm one of those.

Your post is utterly incoherent and ranting. So I'll leave it there.

[FishesaPlenty]

Maybe recognise that in law it can be stopped. And it can. Article 50 can be withdrawn at any time before the day we are scheduled to leave.

Well I think so too, but to state that as a fact is incorrect. The ECJ will decide whether it can be stopped or not. Until they decide it's just speculation.

[HarveyNickNacks]

AutumnCrow

Article 50 can still be stopped until the day before we leave in March 2019. And it's 'could have been stopped' not 'could of been stopped.'

[AutumnCrow]

I was quoting.

[AlvinStardustsTrousers]

Why does everyone presume leave voters are all old.

I know 21 year olds that voted leave and many aged under 40.

[wondering1101]

Weird isn’t it, that people would riot for something so ephemeral as misplaced notions of sovereignty and blue passports, as well as the right to be poorer. Which Brexit will make a lot of us.

But yes, we must bow to the notion that there might be civil unrest.

What a joke it all is - we have been most spectacularly done over by a few rich boys who want to be richer, a nasty press, and lazy governments who couldn’t be bothered to apply EU rules to circumvent some of the problems that have come with freedom of movement (a lot of benefits come with it too obviously).

[BoneyBackJefferson]

AlvinStardustsTrousers
Why does everyone presume leave voters are all old.

I suspect that those that do it do it because it suits their narrative.

[frumpety]

Studying have you spoken to your MP about what YOU as an individual, would like to see happen as a result of leaving the EU ? Or what you don't want to see happen ?


I do agree with you that if time had been spent more wisely by those paid to do the various jobs related to leaving, we may have been in better position than we are now. Unfortunately it wasn't, I do not understand your reticence about a pause in proceedings, surely if something is worth doing and you clearly believe it is, then it is worth doing well ?


But back to my original question, mass civil unrest ? Can I put you down for a spot of mayhem towards the end of December ?

[bellinisurge]

I know a mid 80s Remain voter. Only one, sadly.