AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

[frumpety]

I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

I think it all depends on how it's managed. If a statesperson admits there isn’t a way of currently relinquishing membership that isn't hugely damaging to all our trading relationships and economy. Perhaps accompanied by reassurances that if the economics change we will reassess the benefits of leaving at that later stage. (It's likely Germany ,France etc would feel the same then anyway and we'd collectively disband it.) I think it could be managed.

My Leave voting FIL wouldn't riot or march. He has bad knees and hips. He would just shout Daily Express headlines out to anyone who would listen.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking

From your link to the "facts"

"That’s a reasonable estimate for how many 18-24 year old voters voted Remain in the 2016 EU referendum, based on the results of polls and surveys. There are no official figures, so it’s impossible to say exactly what the true figure is."

I have highlighted the important bits for you. The truth is that people of all ages voted for brexit.

Was just thinking about other Leave voters I know.

My friend's Mum who is a devoted keyboard recruiter for Leave.She would rant and rave about how you can't trust politicians. She would then post 'wise' sayings about how the EU owe us due to WWII?? She would then circulate more rubbish about how all those EU Muslims will now take over??

Would she march or riot ? Nope.

I think what she'd do to protest is vote UKIP in the next election. The same is true of two other 50 something Leave voters I know.

The EDL and other far right groups might stage small riots but most of the demographic who voted leave are conservative older people like my mum and the people at her sheltered housing or my older next door neighbour who still has a UKIP poster up. The idea they would take to the streets is laughable.

I don't think we have anyone who could claim to be a Statesperson lonely, mores the pity. I can think of a couple of people, both women, but I cannot imagine them wanting to take any more vitriol and obscene trolling and death and rape threats than they currently do.

I also know theee younger people who voted leave for reasons of soverignty and they wouldn’t be taking to the streets to riot either because they’re not unhinged.

Remainers:

Over 50’s are allowed to vote, which is great because most of you are well over 50. ( if the brexit board & the people on the anti brexit marches are anything to go by )

Isn’t it wonderful that you, & all other over 50’s are allowed an opinion.

Well, nearly everyone I know who voted Leave now wishes they hadn’t and have admitted they didn’t actually give it much thought or do any research into what they were voting for, so they’d probably be pretty relieved. The others are pretty old and physically incapable of rioting and unlikely to live to see the end result anyway. But I admit I don’t know a lot of football thugs, so I may be wrong.

Aha Surferjet has changed their mind. IIRC they said they weren't going to continue posting on EU related matters.

It is helpful to know what would you do Surfer -march, riot, keyboard battle, vote differently?

(Glad changing minds is possible anyway.)

lonelyplanetmum

I have hidden the brexit board because it’s just same shit different day.
Even the Westminster thread ( the intellectual one ) is just full of c&p twitter posts ( what’s the point? )
But this thread is on AIBU for some reason, ????

Anyway, good news, we’re getting closer & closer to a deal.
👏👏👏👏👏👏

Ah Surfer how about you ? are you a possible maybe for some hand to hand street combat ?

If we get another bad winter, a balaclava and some fingerless gloves might be a worthwhile purchase anyway

Studyinghell

This is not about the Act. Article 50 is an EU Treaty provision. We need to comply with the Treaty until we leave the EU. The provision expressly allows the procedure to be extended. As a matter of law, the Article 50 notice could be withdrawn, and it would then become a political issue for the EU and the UK to decide what to do next. But it is entirely possible to extend Article 50.

As it is explicitly included in the text of Article 50 that the notice period can be extended, by analogy, if it can be extended, the Article 50 notice can be withdrawn.

Finally, in an extreme situation, the EU stop-the-clock rules could be used to suspend the notice period pending resolution of certain issues (but this is the most unlikely of the outcomes).

Glad to see you've changed your mind about something Surfer.

But the modus operandi of never answering a question, even that posed by the OP, seems to remain unchanged.

Sadly there exist people who would use a halting of Brexit as an opportunity to riot , not because of the cause, but because they want to.

They don't all have to be black and menacing

I think I might start reporting your posts frumpety as your insults towards leave voters are getting way beyond a joke

When 600,000 marched in London recently, Farage mustered 1,000 in Harrogate. Predictions of civil unrest if we don't leave are wildly exaggerated. The risk of civil unrest is higher after Brexit when people realise that the age of austerity is only just beginning. Only by then the police service will have been destroyed meaning the response will be poor. I was reading a report recently about policing and security issues in the event of no deal and it was truly terrifying. This wasn't a scare tactic, or project fear, it was written by and for policing leaders to help them prepare.

I don't think the numbers who marched recently is meaningful. Presumably it was bulked out with people who were not eligible to vote in the Referendum

I think civil unrest would not be a bad thing, it’s possibly inevitable either way. Some of the reasons why people voted for Brexit are nothing to do with the EU, but related to feelings of disenfranchisement, the political class bring out of touch, terrible policies and decisions by governments over the last ten years. If the Brexit vote showed one thing, it showed that we’re a polarised nation. Leaving the EU isn’t going to fix that, possibly may even exacerbate it.