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AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

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frumpety · 12/11/2018 12:04

I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

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Staringcoat · 12/11/2018 16:41

Agree with SusanWalker although she has a terrible job, I think a lot of the responsibility for this does lie at the feet of TM (and gutless Cameron of course). With the referendum vote being so close, with only a few percentage points in it, the only possible solution was going to come through the willingness of both Brexiteers and Remainders alike to compromise. She should have driven that point home. Instead of which, she went in with her red lines and unnecessary hard Brexit stance from the off. The negotiations have not evolved in any meaningful way from that point onwards. It's a fiasco.

Staringcoat · 12/11/2018 16:43

Gay! Remainers not Remainders!
And racial tension not tensions.

Staringcoat · 12/11/2018 16:44

Oh FFS!

Gah NOT gay!

Confused
TheNumberfaker · 12/11/2018 17:06

I think there might be a few dozen EDL type rioters, but nothing massive. Would be much worse if we don’t manage to stop Brexit.

TheNumberfaker · 12/11/2018 17:16

I mean much worse from shortages, not from Remainers rioting.

ClaryFray · 12/11/2018 17:40

Demonstration yes. Rioting no. Democracy and this country would be a joke, the message is well jayt cry until it goes the way we want.

I wonder if we'd be having this conversation if we were staying.

arethereanyleftatall · 12/11/2018 17:49

@Pickupthephone - optimism.

megletthesecond · 12/11/2018 17:53

Yanbu.
Seeing as some of the leave voters I know aren't the type to watch the news or read the papers I really doubt they'd protest.

Figmentofmyimagination · 12/11/2018 17:53

Anyone who rioted would need to be locked up and given stiff deterrent sentences as in August 2011. I bloody hope people march though, because if they don’t, it will suggest that 17 million people really didn't give a shit, and put us through all this rubbish for nothing.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 12/11/2018 17:58

I think frustrated Leavers would probably redouble their racist abuse on trains, buses, streets.... but then, aren't we planning for civil disorder when we run out of food and medicine anyway? It's probably all going to shit no matter what, really.

BoneyBackJefferson · 12/11/2018 18:00

Butterymuffin
It's really a question of whether those riots will be worse than the riots that will happen when supplies of food and medicine run low after Brexit.

No its really a question of
"whether those hypothetical riots will be worse than the hypothetical riots that will happen when supplies of food and medicine run low after Brexit."

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 12/11/2018 18:01

I wonder if we'd be having this conversation if we were staying

Yes. You don’t honk Farage would have just shut up and fucked off if the vote had been 52/48 the other way do you?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 12/11/2018 18:01

Think not honk.

BackInTime · 12/11/2018 18:05

I think the consequences of a bad deal or no deal are more likely to lead to civil unrest and risk a return to violence in NI.

People voted to leave because they believed that it would make their lives better and this government is about to make it worse. I think the government needs to put party politics aside, grow a pair and spell out exactly what leaving will mean for all of us.

TheCupboardUnderTheStairs · 12/11/2018 18:20

Doh, of course it was only advisory, that's why we are on the brink of leaving. That old chestnut has long gone

Timeforabiscuit · 12/11/2018 18:23

I think people have short memories, and underestimate the amount of vitriol against the "establishment" and "immigrants" - just the brexit vote increased hate crime.

I wouldnt put money on brexit celebrations not getting out of hand either.

There are, I imagine, a few semi formal extremist groups which would be paying careful attention for an opportune time to kick off, and have had plenty of time to plan.

Moussemoose · 12/11/2018 18:27

Advisory is not an 'old chestnut' it's a constitutional fact. The government choose to act on the advice and launched article 50.

It can still be rescinded if Parliament decides.

The referendum was not legally binding.

Moussemoose · 12/11/2018 18:27

Rioting depends on how hot next summer is. Either way.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 12/11/2018 18:33

I think if the 48% managed not to riot in the first place then the 52% can do the same?

NinjaGoSaysNo · 12/11/2018 18:43

I wouldnt put money on brexit celebrations not getting out of hand either.
Good point.

I think the government needs to put party politics aside, grow a pair and spell out exactly what leaving will mean for all of us.
Exactly. And until it does, people will assume "Remoaners" are just talking "Project Fear" about shortages and chaos following a No Deal exit.

Patroclus · 12/11/2018 18:51

I think all the cities which usually end up in the midst of riots are remain.

Childrenofthesun · 12/11/2018 18:59

The only people who might riot are the far right groups who will use any excuse. The rest of us shouldn't be subject to an economic catastrophe because we are held hostage by a tiny minority of thugs.

Otherwise, there would just be some grumbling about how people knew we would never leave. Although a part of me thinks only going through the pain of leaving will help people to understand the reality of how much we benefit from EU membership.

Seniorschoolmum · 12/11/2018 19:10

Op, are you in the south east? Somewhere affluent?
If so, I don’t think it is easy to understand how angry some people in some deprived areas are.

Moussemoose · 12/11/2018 19:14

Where exactly are these riots happening?

As has been pointed out riots usually happen in cities and young people usually lead the way. Mostly riots occur in hot weather.

All the major cities voted remain.

I can see how in some deprived areas with large amounts of social housing a critical mass might occur and riots might happen.

However, no one gives a fuck about those areas as successive governments have shown.

frumpety · 12/11/2018 19:20

Senior no not SE, I live in the North.

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