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AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

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frumpety · 12/11/2018 12:04

I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

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bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 10:06

I don't have any concerns about calling racists "dogs with fleas". If you get on their side, what do you expect? Plenty of nice people were happy to get on the side of the scumbags. It should have been a no brainer to distance yourself from those turds. Apparently it wasn't.

RedRoseReb · 15/11/2018 10:10

How could anyone vote, ever, given such stringent conditions on checking the beliefs of anyone who votes the same way?

It makes no sense.

Desecratedcoconut · 15/11/2018 10:12

What does this vitriol contribute to the debate Bellini? Do you think if people chose to riot it will be over the vagaries of fishing policies or because they have spent the last two years being told that they are less than ...dogs in your case?

I just don't think anything good is going to come of the way this entire debate has been framed in such violent and oppositional terms, with so much emotional trauma that actual communication has been lost.

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 10:13

It was bloody obvious that the worst of the worst were using Leave campaign to further their scummy ideas. To pretend that is a surprise is just silly.

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 10:15

The dogs are the racists. Why is it bad to call them "dogs"? If you side with the dogs, it doesn't mean you are a dog but it means you get fleas.
Lie down with dogs and get fleas is an old expression. If you have never heard it before, maybe try talking to older people.

Desecratedcoconut · 15/11/2018 10:15

Are you replying to me at all Bellini? I can't tell because it just seems more of the same and doesn't actually address the content?

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 10:16

I am explaining an old English expression to you @Desecratedcoconut .
Or is this debate only for twenty somethings?

RedRoseReb · 15/11/2018 10:24

I'm all for colourful metaphor and don't find it dehumanising to use them judiciously.

However it makes no sense to tar all voters (in a two-way split referendum) with the same brush, ( as they are not sheep in a flock, see.)

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 10:25

If I'm the only one that makes no sense, we'll be doing well.

RedRoseReb · 15/11/2018 10:29

You are right Bellini!

I was just hammering the nail that was sticking out! ( I think that's a Japanese one on how their society builds it's cohesion by trampling some what on the individual.)

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smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/11/2018 10:38

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Imissgmichael · 15/11/2018 10:55

My feelings aren’t upset Bellini because you sound unhinged. Any way it will give my black son of immigrants DH a laugh that he’s considered a racist dog. Give your head a wobble.

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 10:59

From immigrant family myself. My sincere apologies for using an expression you obviously aren't familiar with and assuming I have called all Leave voters dogs. I said they had fleas now. But don't worry about not being familiar with the expression. I'm an over educated Remainer so what do you expect?

Peregrina · 15/11/2018 11:11

How could anyone vote, ever, given such stringent conditions on checking the beliefs of anyone who votes the same way?

You really didn't need to look far to see that Farage is a racist bigot.

RedRoseReb · 15/11/2018 11:22

How obtuse.

Imissgmichael · 15/11/2018 11:45

Can anyone be over educated Bellini?

Peregrina, I agree with you about farage, but just because someone voted leave doesn’t mean they agree with his or UKIPs politics.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/11/2018 11:53

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Imissgmichael · 15/11/2018 12:13

I can believe it Smile. My West Indian friend experienced the opposite. Went to Poland with his Polish gf and left early due to threats of violence. That’s why you shouldn’t make assumptions about people.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/11/2018 12:17

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bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 12:18

It's a well known phenomenon - pulling up the drawbridge once you have got in : look at the US which is a nation built on immigration.
I've spent a lot of time in E Europe and racism towards black people is a depressing feature of life there.

BertrandRussell · 15/11/2018 12:39

Please don't tell me we're having a row about the axiom "if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas?" Grin

OK. Exchange it for "you can't touch pitch and not be defiled".

You're welcome.

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 12:43

It appears we are @BertrandRussell .

BertrandRussell · 15/11/2018 13:07

An MP just referred to the proposed deal as a “dog’s breakfast”. .......Grin

1tisILeClerc · 15/11/2018 13:30

I suppose you could have 'pig in a poke'.
Would that get it back to Cameron where all this started?

Miljah · 15/11/2018 14:11

Cut to the end, having read half!

No, there wouldn't be rioting.

The few Brexiters I know have taken no interest whatsoever in what's been happening over the past few months. Any mention brings cries of 'I wish they'd just get on with it!'- to which, naturally, they're asked 'What? Get on with what? Under which terms? FOM? SM? CU? Norway? Canada? WTO? Cliff-edge?'.... cue much confusion. They're unlikely to take to the streets because their reasons for leaving were so inchoate I doubt they'd know what to put on their banners now they realise how asinine it was to allow the great uninformed vote on such an important and complex thing.

However, I also suspect they will declare 'victory' if we end up with BINO, having only a rather critical loss of any 'say', of any influence at the top tables of the EU to show for their 'Brexit'.

I believe that vast majority of Brexiters voted for the first time ever, and many, thankfully, are refusing to ever vote again. Many now have a vague sense of how badly they were mislead, and I believe many would be grateful to have the folly of their vote being over-turned without loss-of-face and without being forced to take any blame (see how many are already back-tracking, or, if in government, resigning as the scale of the potential shit-storm becomes apparent).

Most Brexiteers weren't voting against the EU, they were voting against austerity and the Tories. I think many have woken up to this (at least, I hope so, unless there is some truth in the allegation that 'Leavers are stupid'...), I believe many, many were as shocked as Remainers at the result and would rather like to see the status quo continue, but with the Tories having had their noses bloodied.