AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

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I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

No, It needs to be at every commentator who has accused an older person of being racist because they expressed their honestly held view, or a younger person of being a snowflake for expressing their desire to remain.
Not just one side or the other!

We have to get better at convincing people, not just telling them to shut up.

I think there would be some protests and a bit of rioting if we cancel it. But I think the rioting will be a lot worse if Brexit goes ahead. Hungry people are the most angry. Either way, there will rioting.

Smile, it depends what you mean by openly racist views doesn’t it. For example, concerns about immigration is seen as racist by some isn’t it. Do you think the same?

A lot of things are labelled as hate crimes incorrectly. Other hate crimes aren’t recorded as hate crimes because the victims aren’t members of the correct group. I know because I’m a victim myself.

Oh and I’m well aware that the problems with immigration isn’t all down to the EU.

Anyway, the fact that immigration won’t decrease is irrelevant. Worrying about immigration does not make you openly racist but many people seem to think it does.

Open racism has markedly increased since the referendum. There is no fudging or qualifying that - or pretending that it hasn’t happened.

"Worrying about immigration does not make you openly racist but many people seem to think it does."

Giving reasons for worrying about immigration, and keeping blaming immigrants for problems that are not caused by them, when all of the information to contrary is available, does show an element of that.

As does making sweeping generalizations about immigrants based on narrow personal experiences tainted by preconceived prejudices.

People have lain down with dogs and picked up their fleas. Hard to tell if they would follow a flea bitten dog if it barked loud enough.
There's some analogy for ye.

I’m not saying racist incidents haven’t increased. I just don’t like they way some things are classed as hate crimes but others aren’t. It makes statistics meaningless.

I think the referendum has brought bigotry to the surface in some sections of both the leave and remain camps. Racism and xenophobia on one side and cries of most leavers are to old and uneducated to vote on the other. It’s certainly shown the ugly side of the U.K. population. It’s all very sad.

I've never really heard the "Too old and uneducated to vote" thing, I've heard the poor education levels of leave voting areas pointed out, and that graduates voted to remain 2-1, but it doesn't mean they are too stupid to vote.

On the other hand remain supporters are traitors, remain MPs have death threats, a remain MP was murdered, and racist incidents, the kind that are reported, are up.

We all hear what we want to hear.

It’s the wrong time of year for rioting. You need warmer weather and longer daylight hours. This is why U.K. riots generally happens in the summer.

It’s quite possible that something might happen next summer. Even if Brexit (or BINO or no Brexit) wasn’t the flashpoint, the press would likely find a reason to refer to such unrest as ‘the Brexit riots’

Boris, no matter how cleverly you word it, your basically saying worrying about immigration is racist.. As I said nastyness on both sides.

Bellinsurge are you calling all leave voters dogs (or are you talking about remain voters). Nice. Kinda illustrates my point really.

@Imissgmichael leave voters laid down with dogs. And got fleas.
If that hurts some snowflake Leaver feelings to say that, tough.

Jesus Bellin, is there any need?

@Desecratedcoconut - a pp seems to think we should spare a thought for sensitive Leaver feelings. I disagree.

You disagree with what? I think dehumanising people with a different political opinion is dangerous.

I disagree with the notion that we should be sensitive to Leaver feelings.
We all have more important things to worry about and I don't think any time should be wasted tip toe ing around sensitive Leavers.

Sensitive / insensitive - I couldn't give a stuff. I certainly don't believe all views are equal. I don't think robust debate needs to descend to dehumanising other people though.

I just saw this thread has gone all 'immigration' as many Brexit threads do.

The underlying tenet is an anxiety that immigration is some kind of a problem but that is just an unsubstantiated feeling thing.

When you really look at this complex issue - in fact the positives far outweigh the negatives. Apart from the fact we need overseas staff in some areas especially the NHS there are the fiscal facts.

From my posting on another thread

EU Migrants contributed approximately £2,300 more each per annum to UK public finances (including NHS funding and adult social care etc) than other U.K. residents.

For EU13+ migrants their contribution is £3,700 per capita higher each per annum to the public finances than the average UK adult. ( EU13+ are the EU members before 2004 plus EEA members plus Switzerland. )

Non-EEA migrants contributed around £840 less..