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AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

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frumpety · 12/11/2018 12:04

I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

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DarlingNikita · 13/11/2018 12:45

YANBU. No one would bother rioting.

frumpety · 13/11/2018 13:10

Fair do's @HebeMumsnet, quite surprised it lasted so long on AIBU Smile

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ElfinStardust · 13/11/2018 13:15

I don't think it is "fair do's" frumpety. They keep hundreds of threads that aren't proper AIBU or belong in another topic. It's only Brexit related threads they move because of the number of complaints they get.

ElfinStardust · 13/11/2018 13:16

thread here if anyone wants to chip in

BertrandRussell · 13/11/2018 13:17

I really don't hold with the corralling of threads- this discussion should be wider not narrower!

frumpety · 13/11/2018 13:20

Why do people complain ? I could understand during and initially straight after the referendum, when there were a lot of threads basically saying the same thing, but the odd one popping up now and again, I don't get it ? Hmm

I don't have the time nor inclination to click on 95% of the AIBU threads and I am sure most other people don't either.

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1tisILeClerc · 13/11/2018 14:21

Considering there was some 'civil unrest' over 'Build a bear' not long back I think the chances are pretty high when the shops have little or no food.
As long as all the Leave voters are at the back of the queue that should be fine.
The Army is being put on standby, although they have said it is not for normal police type duty, so it is more likely to be protecting warehouses and transport. Police leave has been cancelled, certainly from March 29 onwards but I am not sure if it is before as well.
So the morning of 30th March may not be quite as 'normal' as we might expect.

1tisILeClerc · 13/11/2018 14:25

Sadly, 'AIBU to chose a blue handbag with a green dress' gets less 'airtime' than 'AIBU to be worried because my child can't get life preserving medicine'.
People might be sick of hearing about Brexit, but it is an understatement to say it is not important.

1tisILeClerc · 13/11/2018 14:28

There will be threads on MN in April next year from people wanting to know what to do with family members who have been laid off, together with hundreds of their fellow workers with no sign of any future employment.

mostdays · 13/11/2018 14:38

After April next year will we be able to discuss this on other boards, or will it still be hidden away in the Brexit topic? And how come AIBUs on Brexit get moved quickly when AIBUs on education, health and the many other topics there are separate boards for, stay put?

Mistigri · 13/11/2018 14:39

This thread is tl;dr but where is there any evidence that thousands of people are prepared to march for the Brexit cause?

Brexit groups have never managed to turn out more than a few tens of people at any of their public demonstrations so far.

There would probably be some public unrest but it would be the usual suspects (Tommeh supporters and neo fascist types) and the numbers involved would be small.

The vast bulk of the Brexit voting population is old and lives outside the main urban centres. If anyone can get a thousand Brexit supporters to a march in London I'd be surprised - and I'd bet money that the attendance at such a march wouldn't make it into five figures.

ElfinStardust · 13/11/2018 15:28

Considering there was some 'civil unrest' over 'Build a bear' not long back I think the chances are pretty high when the shops have little or no food

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SusanWalker · 13/11/2018 17:41

I don't accept the argument that because we were part of the EU for forty years we have to wait forty years before rejoining. The reason we stayed in for so long was because there wasn't enough of an appetite in the country for leaving until recently.

If the country wants to rejoin in eighteen months time then it's hardly democratic to say no you have to wait another 38 and a half years.

It's a bit of a childish argument.

I'd rather remain though. Rejoining would not be easy.

Peregrina · 13/11/2018 18:27

Rejoining would not be easy.

It would probably not be as difficult as it would be for wholly new entrants. Many laws will already been in harmony. I think it will be the end of the special terms, but that will be no bad thing.

oldsewandsew · 13/11/2018 18:27

Having seen some of the vitriol directed towards people I know who voted leave, I can guarantee you that none of them would march, let alone riot, for fear of being ‘outed’ as a leave voter. People who used to talk quite openly about politics now won’t discuss it at all. I voted remain, but I steer well clear of the brexit board because I find a lot of the posters to be deeply unpleasant towards anyone who voted differently. Both sides.

Staringcoat · 13/11/2018 18:32

Oldsewandsew Yes, Anna Soubry described on Politics Live today how she has received three death threats (police involved) because of her support for Remain. The nastiness is on both sides sadly.

twofingerstoEverything · 13/11/2018 19:04

I do get really fed up with people banging on about 'vitriol' being directed at Leave voters. Have they not read all the 'libtard' 'remoaners' 'snowflake' insults that are absolutely rife on social media and elsewhere? Have they not seen the hatred directed at Gina Miller?

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 13/11/2018 19:07

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twofingerstoEverything · 13/11/2018 19:08

death threats issued at someone who dared to talk about possible costs of Brexit.

It is unbelievable how people just see what they want to see. Howcan they talk about 'vitriol' towards leavers with a straight face? Seriously.

MrsFogi · 13/11/2018 19:14

Brexit and Self-Id the two issues that must be "contained" - God forbid anyone with their fingers in their ears, singing "la la la" should have to see a Brexit/Self-ID title in AIBU Hmm.

FWIW OP I doubt many leavers would take to the streets in the cold, winter months. Particularly not the middle class, Daily Fail reading pensioners.

oldsewandsew · 13/11/2018 19:19

I said from both sides. I made the point about it being directed towards leave voters in direct response to the OP who was questioning whether people would riot or not. I was simply explaining that there is vitriol towards leave voters (as there is towards remainers)

1tisILeClerc · 13/11/2018 19:27

I would only expect 'severe grumpiness' and occasional violence due to the actual leave/remain decision. However when the large scale unemployment and food shortages happen it could get a whole lot worse as there is NO backup plan to find gainful employment for hundreds of thousands and government money will be running out. The 'easiest deals ever' cannot materialise for months, if at all so there is a risk of almost 'suspended animation' while the government tries to think of a cunning plan.

Kummerspeck · 13/11/2018 19:30

I think even if people did not riot it would do serious damage to the country in the long term as many of those leavers, who already felt left behind, would no longer have faith in democracy.

Can I also point out for those who have mentioned medication shortages, we are regularly having those already but they are not mentioned in the media. Next year they will all be publicised and blamed on Brexit

Seniorschoolmum · 13/11/2018 19:43

So many comments on here seem to ignore the fact that we already have had one mp killed. How much evidence of anger do you need?

I worry about whether people will be safe. There is a lot of anger out there that we have to consider how to deal with. Everyone is entitled to their view, regardless, the vitriol and name calling serves only to raise anger levels.
Everyone needs to calm down ( a lot) and discuss the options without all the “old”, “stupid”, “racist”, “cowardly” etc

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 13/11/2018 20:06

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