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AIBU to think that if the government stopped or paused Brexit, it is highly unlikely there would be massive 'civil' unrest ?

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frumpety · 12/11/2018 12:04

I have heard people say that if Brexit was stopped or even paused there would be riots and mass civil unrest as a result. I honestly don't think there would be, I know a lot of people would be annoyed or angry.

Would any leave voter on here seriously consider rioting ?

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smithsally884 · 13/11/2018 09:48

But the euro could collapse

Staringcoat · 13/11/2018 09:50

What's your point then Josephine?

Talkstotrees · 13/11/2018 09:52

But the euro could collapse

...?

JosephineDupont · 13/11/2018 09:53

My points were minor corrections to the comments of previous posters.

They were not value judgements.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/11/2018 09:55

But the euro could collapse

Good thing we have the pound as a currency.

Then again, it’s the pound that’s currently collapsing, so not sure what your point is.

lonelyplanetmum · 13/11/2018 10:13

Pound fell sharply against the dollar again last night in fact.

"Sterling slipped by more than a cent to less than $1.29 during overnight trading on Asian markets and the declines were extended later as London opened, taking the currency close to $1.28 and about 1% lower on the day."

BorisBogtrotter · 13/11/2018 10:19

The leave vote was such a broad church of different vested interests ( many of them conflicting) that there wouldn't be riots.

There lots of dissatisfied people when they realise that they won't be getting what they wanted out of brexit though.

frumpety · 13/11/2018 10:45

Where have I insulted anyone Surfer ? I haven't , it is not my intention and never has been my lovely Smile

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bumbleymummy · 13/11/2018 10:49

I’m still trying to understand the argument that a second vote would be undemocratic Confused Yes, people voted to leave but it looks like many of the things that motivated people to vote Leave aren’t going to be delivered. Shouldn’t people get to make a decision on the actual option that is available? How is that undemocratic? It seems to me that staunch Leave voters who just want to leave at any cost are just worried that they won’t have the majority any more now that people have seen the real options that are available. That doesn’t sound very Democratic to me.

Staringcoat · 13/11/2018 10:56

JosephineDupont understood; my comments were the same

BorisBogtrotter · 13/11/2018 10:56

If a second vote is undemocratic, and referendums are sacrosanct then we abide by the 1975 referendum.

I also don't understand the point that the remain are being anti democratic by campaigning by for a second referendum. The leave campaign did so in many guises for 41 years and had a specific political party whose only goal was getting another referendum.

But everyone else should now shut up.

surferjet · 13/11/2018 11:33

No, you should not shut up, but you should respect the referendum result not try & overturn it.

Start your own ‘rejoin’ party and spend the next 40 years campaigning to rejoin the EU, that’s what you should be doing, not trying to stop a democratic process because you lost.

bellinisurge · 13/11/2018 11:43

Don't want to rejoin on terms poorer than the sweet deal we are about to lose.

ShreddedBanksy · 13/11/2018 11:46

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bumbleymummy · 13/11/2018 11:48

How is a vote on the final deal ‘trying to stop a democratic process’?

bumbleymummy · 13/11/2018 11:49

Isn’t it part of the democratic process?

BorisBogtrotter · 13/11/2018 12:00

"but you should respect the referendum result not try & overturn it. "

Then your side should have kept quiet for all of the last 41 years. Very hypocritical. Your side tried to over turn the last, and far more overwhelming referendum because you lost. Farage also said he would keep campaigning at 52/48 the other way.

ARguing for a second referendum is not anti democratic.

However forcing through the result of an advisory referendum, to suit an agenda not on the ballot is antidemocratic.

surferjet · 13/11/2018 12:14

Considering the last referendum was in 1975, when most of us were too young to vote - or not even born - that argument is ridiculous.
And why is this referendum ‘advisory’ & a mere opinion poll, but the ‘75 referendum wasn’t?

BorisBogtrotter · 13/11/2018 12:16

No no no, referendums are sacrosanct ( according to you), and the campaign to over turn the last one went on for decades, they should have shut up and got one with it, instead of founding political parties and campainging from within others.

You can't have it both ways.

Your side got this referendum because of its campaigning against the result of the last one.

We can campaign against the result of this one.

BorisBogtrotter · 13/11/2018 12:17

P.S its called democracy.

Something that leavers think is important ( but only when the decisions goes their way).

bumbleymummy · 13/11/2018 12:21

Surferjet, because it was advisory.

surferjet · 13/11/2018 12:22

I’ve just told you to start campaigning to rejoin.
But expect it to take decades, just like it did for us.
You’re problem is you won’t wait 5 minutes

Enterthewolves · 13/11/2018 12:31

@Surferjet Enoch Powell (you know Rivers of Blood chap) started campaigning against the result of the 1975 referendum just a few days afterwards pointing out the result wasn’t binding despite a 68% majority for. So you know if it was good enough for you team it is good enough for ours. Oh and btw - have you noticed the racists are all on your team - that would make me feel pretty uncomfortable.

HebeMumsnet · 13/11/2018 12:31

Afternoon, all. We're going to move this thread over to our Brexit topic shortly.

BorisBogtrotter · 13/11/2018 12:35

Anyway its looking good.

Good for the liberal urban elites who will be least effected at least.

Oh the irony,