To think people are creating hysteria around brexit

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I keep reading post about brexit And prepping and they seem to be crazy. Why are people creating so much hysteria around this. I can’t see how it would be beneficial to other countries to let it get in the state some posters are suggesting.

I believe Brexit will be a complete disaster - but not next year. I think we will get through the translation OK- not great but OK.

And then we will see a steady decline in the UK economy until in 10 years time we will be notably poorer than countries on a similar level to us now.

Drugs will still be valuable and planes will still fly - but an even greater number of us will be unable to afford them.

Oh FFS! Are people still truly this clueless about what is happening?! You have the whole fucking internet at your disposal! Stop reading the Daily Mail etc and find out what is actually happening out there!

I'm honestly fucking astonished that so many people seem to have no idea what is actually going on re negotiations and the implications of them.

Btw, I have a child dependent on insulin so if Brexit is indeed a clusterfuck shambles then there is a high possibility they could die, so no, I'm not creating hysteria. Fuck off and do some research.

WRT insulin and other critical drugs, I expect that the government will find a way to source them, since if they allow diabetics to die they will certainly lose the next election. However the increased costs will lead to cut backs of other services.

The best we can hope for is long, slow decline.

Oh oh has any said "don't call me racist and thick" - do I win Brexit bingo.

Although, I think "I didn't vote but don't call me thick" is a classic.

SonEtLuminere... if it wass upto me I wouldn't negotiate! I want out full stop.

O never mind, it'll be a great time for unicorn smugglers, got a spare one here for you already lazypuppy, I know you've been expecting it.

I mean I can’t see other countries In the case of a no deal letting diabetes ( using the example of insulin) die

You are aware that hundreds of thousands of people all over the world die because they cannot get hold of insulin. So yes, other countries do let people die.

I think the Government will prioritise medicines that keep people alive. DP has a rare drug that improves quality of life, it is those kind of drugs that are more likely to be affected.

Rubbish. The EU were never going to play ball.

If by "playing ball" you mean that they should have just rolled over and given us whatever we demanded, when most of the problems it suited us to blame on Yuuuurope were of our own making due to short-sighted government and crap, lazy bureaucracy, then of course not. Why should they?

The point is that it would be difficult to imagine a way in which this process could have been handled worse than it has been.

Sorry why doesn’t not voting make me thick? Would voting on something and potentially regeretting what I have voted for been a better option ?

I doubt if Theresa May will be without insulin.

If you think this is just hysteria you clearly know fuck all about the impact of a no deal Brexit. Even the government’s own impact assessments are damning. Take your head out of the Daily Mail and go and read something evidence based instead.

My good friend who's a government lawyer and very well-informed is extremely worried about what might happen. I trust her and don't think the worry over Brexit is in the smallest bit hysterical.

Surely the UK, not the EU, is the one behaving like an abusive partner? Years of talking about how we're too good for the EU; then announcing that we're leaving but we want the EU to keep doing what we tell them; then, when the EU refuses to bend over backwards, accusing them of being controlling and petty...

To be honest the fact no one can say what is happening is one of the reasons it’s not worrying me. I can’t get worked up about something that Nobody knows what’s happening. That’s one of the main reasons I didn’t actually vote - I really had no strong feelings either way and believed everything to be speculative

Let me give you one hopefully relatable example of what will happen if we have no deal. Trust me we need a deal. This isn’t scare mongering. This is fact. You know all that tinned tuna that’s sold in sandwiches, salads, supermarkets, schools, hospitals etc. All that stuff is shipped in from Thailand, Philipines, Ecuador, Mauritius and Indonesia. Currently out of these countries the only country that may agree to roll over the current EU trading agreement with the UK is Mauritius. The rest are in “talks”. BTW UK and Thailand decided to postpone any further talks until after Thailand’s general election expected next February. Unless these countries agree to roll over the current EU trading agreement or we strike a deal with the EU there will be an immediate 24% increase on duty on all the tuna products coming in. This is based on WTO terms. That’s a 24% increase across the board. Now consider we are an island. How many other products do you think will be affected in a similar way? The people with the least will be impacted the most. I really don’t understand how people can’t see this. Head wall!

To get a full house, we need a: ‘we won, get over it’ although I’m hearing it less and less now that all except the really thick brexiteers realise they haven’t actually ‘won’ anything.

Have we had Germans need to sell their cars?

Maybe they're worried because they've read the governments own impact assessments.

To be honest the fact no one can say what is happening is one of the reasons it’s not worrying me. I can’t get worked up about something that Nobody knows what’s happening. That’s one of the main reasons I didn’t actually vote - I really had no strong feelings either way and believed everything to be speculative

This is what makes you sound thick as two short planks. I’m sure you’re not though.

if it wass upto me I wouldn't negotiate! I want out full stop.

Um, hate to point this out to you. But, despite how some newspapers are making this sound, we are not ‘breaking up with’ the EU. If that’s how you’re thinking about this then that might be why you are confused.

They didn’t steal our boyfriend. They aren’t an ‘abusive husband’. They are a trading block of countries who we are part of and get befeficial trade agreements because of. Once we leave we no longer have any, none, zip, zero, nada, not a sausage trade agreements in place with any EU country or most of the countries in the world (because they came through the EU)

What you are suggesting is to just leave and not bother to put any trade agreements in place first. Therefore losing ALL OF THE MONEY we have so far invested in EU trade talks, space programmes, reciprocal university funding etc. ALL of those billions flushed down the drain because some people in England don’t understand the EU and don’t like what they don’t understand.

If you weren’t dragging me down with you I’d say you deserve the absolutely shitstorm of misery you are bringing down on yourself through your own pig ignorance and fear of anything you don’t understand properly.

I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again- Leavers fall into three categories: the venal (disaster capitalists like Rees-Mogg and Farage), the foolish and fearful (don’t like what I can’t understand) and the genuinely racist.

They’ll all discover that you can’t eat jingoism.

Not voting because you might regret it later...

How about informing yourself, growing up and taking responsibility for the country that you live in?

You have rights and responsibilities. With the power to vote comes responsibility. The responsibility to engage, understand and vote.

Sorry why doesn’t not voting make me thick?

Well, it certainly means you don't have the right to dismiss people who are concerned as "creating hysteria".

Hysteria? When the 10 o clock news is talking about the Government drawing up plans to keep up supply chains ( medicine and food) in event of a no deal using different ports in case of blockades. This kind of preparation is happening, we are being told this through main stream media.

so as a remainer would have preferred me to vote in something just for the sake of it or not vote ?

I'm one of very many who relies on medical supplies made in the EU. I'm stockpiling my stuff but I'm still terrified. My life will be totally shit and I won't be able to work if I don't get my supplies.

I'm not hysterical. I'm terrified. And you, OP, are wilfully ignorant.