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To think people are creating hysteria around brexit

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whyispeppainthenightgarden · 23/10/2018 20:33

I keep reading post about brexit And prepping and they seem to be crazy. Why are people creating so much hysteria around this. I can’t see how it would be beneficial to other countries to let it get in the state some posters are suggesting.

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AwdBovril · 23/10/2018 22:30

In relation to insulin - human insulin is not produced in the UK at present. If stocks coming into the UK are delayed, even by less than a day, the cooling systems on the transport could potentially run out & the insulin will degrade & be unfit for use. People die in the USA every day, because they cannot afford insulin, as they either can't afford insurance or because their cover doesn't provide for sufficientmonthly supply - this article mentions one provider that will only cover 3 weeks of insulin per month, one patient had to beg for samples. Stretching doses is also common, a bad idea with diabetes, it can lead to diabetic ketoacidisis, which can be fatal. In the third world, type 1 diabetics can often expect to live as little as a year after diagnosis. Perhaps 20 years if they live in a city.

I don't see anyone making a massive international outcry about this. And Trump, who is busy dismantling Obamacare, still has a lot of support in the USA.

BoomTish · 23/10/2018 22:32

Sorry why doesn’t not voting make me thick?

Because it highlights your wanton ignorance. You appear unable to educate yourself on important issues, and make decisions based on your research.

Pearl87 · 23/10/2018 22:37

Basically anyone who suggests that people whose lives depend on medicine which the Government is talking about having to stockpile and charter ships to bring in, are getting a touch hysterical really is an absolute wanker of the highest order.

Try being dependent on Insulin and seeing suggestions that there might be shortages and have a bit of fucking compassion and understanding for fucks sake. I completely despair of some people.

I agree 100%. It's extremely nasty to call people "hysterical" when they're facing a shortage of the medication that keeps them alive.

HowDoYouFeelNow · 23/10/2018 22:39

so as a remainer would have preferred me to vote in something just for the sake of it or not vote ?

Or, y'know, you could have educated yourself about the positions outlined on the vote and chosen what you thought was the best option.

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whyispeppainthenightgarden · 23/10/2018 22:40

It was never my intention to be nasty and maybe I choose a poor example.

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FuriousOctopus · 23/10/2018 22:42

I'm quite concerned as a T1 diabetic, otherwise I'm at a 6/10 concern

Disquieted1 · 23/10/2018 22:45

Does anyone actually know anything about this subject? I'm talking independent knowledge, not quoting stuff off the Internet or recycling newspaper articles or re-quoting other people's opinions as fact?

maddening · 23/10/2018 22:49

The EU will want to "encourage" other members to understand that leaving will destroy them - there is certainly an incentive to not give much up to the uk - they are watching people in Greece - an eu member - starving and living in abject poverty - do you think they would lift a finger for a trouble making UK? One reason that i voted remain was that I cannot finnacially last 50 years of turmoil.

Moussemoose · 23/10/2018 22:50

Doing nothing does not absolve you of blame.
Not voting does not mean you are not responsible.
Ignorance is not an excuse.

Talkstotrees · 23/10/2018 22:51

So, please write to (or email) your MP expressing your displeasure at the reality of Brexit. Leaver or Remainer, surely no one can be happy with what is happening? Let hem know! An email takes seconds to write - it needn’t be beautifully composed; just a rough outline of concerns will be fine. If we don’t tell them we’re worried they’ll assume we’re not.

Find your MP here: www.theyworkforyou.com/

BarbarianMum · 23/10/2018 22:52

Independent knowledge from where? I dont think any of us are members of the cabinet or Michel Barnier are we? Or do you mean are any of us reliant on medicine produced outside the UK?

HarveyNickNacks · 23/10/2018 22:53

To all of you saying you're not worried, we'll cope etc I hope none of you need any diagnostic scans or cancer treatments which require radioactive isotopes.

We import them from the EU all via Euratom. An organisation we have to leave when we leave the EU.

Even if an agreement can be made between the UK and Euratom they have a very short half life. They can't be stockpiled. They can't sit for hours/days in a queue at Calais or Dover as they will become useless. Some of them are only viable for 6 hours.

They can't be flown in either as many airlines will not handle radioactive cargo and/or UK airports do not have the specialist facilities to do so.

My Uncle is a Professor of Radioactive Medicine. He's worried. My DS had radioactive iodine treatment for cancer last year and may need further treatment. I'm worried. Quite frankly we should all be fucking worried. This is an utterly self inflicted shit storm of mammoth proportions.

Euratom

Zebra31 · 23/10/2018 22:55

Diaquieted what I wrote is first hand knowledge and fact. We are currently working through how many redundancies will be made if the UK leave with no deal. Some of the people that will lose their jobs have been with the company for over 15 years. It’s heartbreaking and these people have no idea what’s coming. They probably voted to brexit. Everyone in a senior position is watching what’s happening and praying for a deal. We have no control over what’s coming. No one wants to see people lose their jobs. It fucks me off reading some of the regurgitated bs you read on here when you know the impact it’s going to have on people you know.

KennDodd · 23/10/2018 23:03

Have you read any of the technical notices OP?

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 23/10/2018 23:08

I wonder how many people on MN live within a major city of the UK? While you may have voted to remain, many (1.7mm) who voted Brexit rather than remain, haven’t felt the benefits you have?

What do you know that they don’t?

If they have borne the brunt of austerity measures what right do you have to tell them they are racist and thick?!!

Zebra31 · 23/10/2018 23:13

Frank - I didn’t call anyone racist or thick. I do believe there are a lot of uninformed people around. We are head quartered in West Yorkshire. Have one guess where the majority of redundancies will be made?

Whatthefoxgoingon · 23/10/2018 23:13

The people who have fared the worst due to austerity measures are the exact same people who will be fucked over the most in the event of no deal brexit. 🤦‍♀️

BearFoxBear · 23/10/2018 23:19

Christ this thread is full of utterly deluded idiots.

I'm currently at a pharma conference and there is serious concern about this shambles from research through to manufacturing and patient treatment.

But just you carry on sticking your heads in the sand.

HarveyNickNacks · 23/10/2018 23:23

Frank - but why is anybody holding the EU to account for the austerity measures that were inflicted on us by the Tory government?

The pro-Brexiteers keep going on about sovereignty. That's exactly was austerity is/was. Something inflicted on us by our own sovereign government that the EU had absolutely fuck all control over. I fucking wish they had been able to do something about it.

Maybe then we wouldn't have disabled people being denied benefits and dying in poverty, increased numbers of homeless people on the streets and the absolute travesty of Universal Credit. But no, our sovereign government have delivered those to us.

It's that lack of fundamental understanding that frustrates me and I suspect many others. The EU isn't perfect but we can't blame it for the policies of the Tory government.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 23/10/2018 23:27

If they have borne the brunt of austerity measures what right do you have to tell them they are racist and thick?!!

If they have borne the brunt of austerity measures imposed by the UK government and thought leaving the EU would make everything rosy again then it's really hard not to think they might be just a tiny bit thick!

TheFaerieQueene · 23/10/2018 23:29

BearFixBear I know exactly what you are talking about.

Pearl87 · 23/10/2018 23:29

If they have borne the brunt of austerity measures what right do you have to tell them they are racist and thick?!!

What do you mean? I don't understand how the EU is responsible for the Conservatives bringing in austerity measures.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 23/10/2018 23:30

It is very concerning I know some people will blame everything on Brexit but the fact it we have no idea if we are leaving with a plan or not

And that is very concerning

jasjas1973 · 23/10/2018 23:30

If they have borne the brunt of austerity measures what right do you have to tell them they are racist and thick?!!

Austerity is a Tory/UK policy and nothing at all to do with the EU, anyone who thinks it is, has earned the right to be called stupid.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 23/10/2018 23:37

The issue is that people were given a chance for real change a real shift in our future

As consecutive governments had left them behind despite their promises

And they took it which is hardly surprising