To think people are creating hysteria around brexit

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I keep reading post about brexit And prepping and they seem to be crazy. Why are people creating so much hysteria around this. I can’t see how it would be beneficial to other countries to let it get in the state some posters are suggesting.

If that matter I don't think you will run out of medicine (for long at least) I just think the UK will become extremely dependant on other countries as in no position to offer much of value and the price of medicine and other imported goods will skyrocket as a consequence.

You would be deluded to think Europe will naturally come to the rescue, if you run out of anything when you have had almost 2 years to prepare! Again, why should they?

In the case of a no deal letting diabetes ( using the example of insulin) die unnecessarily which is basically what is being suggested

Tell us more, what do you expect - if there’s a no deal Brexit you expect medicine, food and transport to continue just as usual? Is that what you think?

Some people so rude. Like a difference in opinion or asking questions make you thick.

In the case of No Deal Brexit nothing will be as it used to.

We could try not checking drugs on entry to the U.K. and hoping that the insulin is insulin, but that’s not without risks.

This isn't the main issue. The problem is that checks on the French side will drastically reduce capacity at the channel ports, because if lorries can't get off the ferry at Calais because of congestion in the port, those same ferries can't reload with trucks heading for Dover.

Opinions are nothing if not based on facts.

Linning
You do realise England will still be part of Europe? It's the EU we are leaving. You seem to have confused the two.

The knock on effect of a few min extra paperwork, time, checks etc on EVERYTHING that comes through our ports and airports will be immense.
Yet somehow we used to cope, before Maasticht.

I love the way they were telling us last week about how united against us the 27 states are. They are not being so 'united' with Italy this week, after their budget.

I get the impression some people think the fall-out from Brexit hasn't happened yet.

It has.

Even if (and God knows I hope for this) we're saved at the eleventh hour and Brexit doesn't happen, it will still have been a hellish period for many people who lost their jobs or their job security. For example, my partner worked in a research medical lab. She was the only British worker in a team dedicated to trivial shite like curing TB. Four months after Brexit, the funders had cold feet and anyone who could get out to the EU or to EU-funded companies ran for it.

The same thing has been happening all over.

People talk a good game about this being a competition between salt of the earth working classes who are crowded out by foreign workers, and richie-rich middle class people who don't care. It's bollocks. In my partner's workplace, people earning mimimum wage were the worst hit. My DP earning 24k was out. It's the people earning in the 40s and 50s who were able to get new jobs fast. I don't begrudge them those jobs and I am glad, but I am furious at anyone who imagines Brexit is a good idea.

Marriedwithchildren5

Yes, yes I realize you will still be part of the European Continent, I am obviously referencing the EU.

I think anyone who interprets people's understandable concerns as hysteria is pretty dense quite frankly.

Totally agree with the poster who compared it to an abusive partner. People seem to think we should stay PURELY because it is 'scary' to leave and the consequences could be scary. Put your big boy pants on and get on with it. We need to get out and thankfully we will be.

Can’t believe people are being so glib about brexit.

OP- go and read some of the official government technical notices if you are wondering why people are being a bit fussy about next spring.

Don't you think that it's the slightest bit worrying though that 2 years after the vote, no one can really say what is happening/what will happen? . They still don't know! No one knows, because nothing is properly sorted and no one can agree on anything. Surely people who rely daily on life saving medications should be assured that they are not in jeopardy.

Companies are doing worst case scenario planning all the time. A few years ago when a serious swine flu epidemic was predicted, a friend who works in the NHS was planning with supermarkets to comandeer freezer facilities to store bodies. DH works in the aviation sector and they're constantly running "what if" scenarios involving the most horrendous circumstances. Not because they think that these awful things will happen, but because they want to have thought through all possibilities and have general strategies in place.

I'm a remainer - I still think leaving the EU is a mistake. But I don't buy into the "it's going to be Armageddon, no transport, no food, civil unrest" craziness which so many people are peddling.

Preppers are going to prep whatever is going on - if it wasn't Brexit they'd be stockpiling for a flood, or serious snow, or nuclear war, or an alien invasion. Some people just like having something to worry about.

Spot on OP

Are the official notices hysterical, crazy and rude?

You do realise England will still be part of Europe? It's the EU we are leaving. You seem to have confused the two.

And you appear to be confused between England and the UK.

Some people so rude. Like a difference in opinion or asking questions make you thick

Well, if you don't take the time to google the Governments own impact assessments through the no deal technical notices and just say its remainer hysteria, what do you expect?

Or the fool who spouts off "its just like the millenium bug etc" without any concept of the billions spent over many years making sure h/w and s/w understood 4 digit dates instead of the old 2 digit ones, i spent 18months testing, proving and installing new telecoms h/w and patching just so people could make calls and be billed for them.

My mum thought it was a load of scare mongering and the EU being awful until she read this....

www.docdroid.net/m3YvOS5/brexit-truth-revised.pdf

Now she’s really worried and wanted to know how, having read the Telegraph since the referendum it hadn’t been explained properly, and how she thought ‘no deal’ meant the status quo.

I’m really worried for the future.

Trade is very complex. The people who understand it think we're fucked without a deal. I trust them on it rather than whatever I've gleaned about it from the internet.
You know the government is actually planning for chaos in the event of no deal, and making industry partners sign papers saying they won't discuss this? They've also been recruiting people to basically manage riots.
For all the people saying 'I can't see that they'd let us go without', it's not about someone agreeing to pass a ball or something, it's a hugely complex system. If there are enough tariffs and bureaucracy and uncertainty people will just sell their products elsewhere.

Purits, import/export pre EU was difficult and expensive, lots of red tape. There was a lot less STUFF bought and sold across borders (and more raw materials). People were poorer, had far less of everything- do you want to go back to that? The world is different now.

To be honest the fact no one can say what is happening is one of the reasons it’s not worrying me. I can’t get worked up about something that Nobody knows what’s happening. That’s one of the main reasons I didn’t actually vote - I really had no strong feelings either way and believed everything to be speculative

I can’t see other countries In the case of a no deal letting diabetes ( using the example of insulin) die unnecessarily

We're not that well liked internationally, OP.

Thing is, all this "no deal" business would be a bit less of a concern if HM Government a) had done any meaningful prep work at all and b) had anything approaching a clue in general terms. As it is, we have a bunch of politicians miles out of their depth and too scared/arrogant to admit they've fucked this up beyond redemption.

The worst of it is, had this whole process been properly handled, planned for and all the rest of it, it could have worked. Instead, we've had all this little Englander, foreigners-do-not-like-it-uppem bollocks of a kind which would have been considered too far-fetched for a Colonel Blimp cartoon, and the damage this has done to our reputation internationally is immense.

This is, sadly, what happens when the country is run by people who don't do detail.

People were poorer, had far less of everything- do you want to go back to that?
Considering that a fair percentage of MN seems to be constantly decluttering and going minimalist, less stuff doesn't seem that much of a hardship!